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How would Americans strengthen social security?
This is how:
![]() Blue is the percentage of people that support that particular reform -- red is people that do not support it (dark blue is "strongly," light blue is "lightly"; same is true for red). This is based on a study by the National Academy of Social Insurance: http://www.nasi.org/sites/default/fi...icans_Want.pdf The conclusions section is on page 29, and it starts off with this: I'm not the kind of guy who believes we should always do as the polls dictate, but these are some ridiculously lopsided polls. |
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However, you point is well taken in regards to our children and grand children. I will be happy for gov to just hand over to me what I have put in and we will call it square. I planned on receiving less or no benefit from SS and 401K, pension and investments are my retirement account.
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Shit man....just print some more money and put it in there!
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I would prefer an opt out option. I'm perfectly fine with the social safety net existing to the degree that those who want to participate in it can sustain it.
For my part, I would prefer to opt out of it, not claim any benefits, and use my money to fund my own retirement.
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How many Muricans does it take to strengthen social security?
I'll tell ya next election cycle! /Politicians
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Opt out cannot work because people would elect it, then vote themselves gravy if it doesn't work out later. It's an either-or system. No different than paying into the public school system. If you want an opt out, you have to first end the program itself. That has zero chance of passing te US congress.
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I would expect that in cases like that, you could have what I would consider a true social safety net - something that an individual could only access if they passed the means test for it. I would expect it would be enough to live on, but maybe not so comfortably. Something like that would be a lot cheaper and probably much more effective than the system we have now.
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I'd implement something where workers are allowed to pay into a plan used only at a predetermined retirement age that is never taxed. Like a 401K with a limit per year and only for those under the age of say 35.
At the same time raising their retirement age to 70. |
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I know you hate to admit it but Social Security is government at its best. A social safety net provided to all and all contribute. |
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Skin in the game? But I have to play? **** you. Its slavery.
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