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Old 02-03-2013, 08:05 AM  
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How would Americans strengthen social security?
This is how:



Blue is the percentage of people that support that particular reform -- red is people that do not support it (dark blue is "strongly," light blue is "lightly"; same is true for red).

This is based on a study by the National Academy of Social Insurance: http://www.nasi.org/sites/default/fi...icans_Want.pdf

The conclusions section is on page 29, and it starts off with this:



I'm not the kind of guy who believes we should always do as the polls dictate, but these are some ridiculously lopsided polls.
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Old 02-04-2013, 01:22 PM   #31
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Thats bullshit & it wont be 67,more like 69 or 70.
Im not a baby boomer. I didnt **** it up nor did my generation or those that come after me. I love how America' thinks & works now
Im a baby boomer. Lets just pass the bills off to our children & grand kids FORWARD!


This is what I think of that idea..
hey doofus...you do realize it is the baby boomers who have paid in the most over their life and are the first generation to proabably have to take reduced benefits. They have already been changed to age 66 for full beneifts. Each generation since the begining of SS have paid for the generation behind.
However, you point is well taken in regards to our children and grand children. I will be happy for gov to just hand over to me what I have put in and we will call it square.
I planned on receiving less or no benefit from SS and 401K, pension and investments are my retirement account.
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:46 PM   #32
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Shit man....just print some more money and put it in there!
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Old 02-04-2013, 05:55 PM   #33
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I would prefer an opt out option. I'm perfectly fine with the social safety net existing to the degree that those who want to participate in it can sustain it.

For my part, I would prefer to opt out of it, not claim any benefits, and use my money to fund my own retirement.
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I would prefer an opt out option. I'm perfectly fine with the social safety net existing to the degree that those who want to participate in it can sustain it.

For my part, I would prefer to opt out of it, not claim any benefits, and use my money to fund my own retirement.
The only problem with that is if your brilliant plan for retirement doesn't work out, what are you going to do? Kill yourself or live off the government dole?
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:07 PM   #35
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Screw punishing me for what a bunch of tree hugging hippies from the 60s are responsible for.
You hippies all thought Haight Ashbury San-Francisco was so cool. I suggest taking you next SS check buy 30 lbs of card board, move back & set up shop
Stoner from the 70s/80s/90s/00s/10s cracking on hippies from the 60s.
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:16 PM   #36
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How many Muricans does it take to strengthen social security?

I'll tell ya next election cycle!

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The only problem with that is if your brilliant plan for retirement doesn't work out, what are you going to do? Kill yourself or live off the government dole?
Keep working? God forbid!
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Opt out cannot work because people would elect it, then vote themselves gravy if it doesn't work out later. It's an either-or system. No different than paying into the public school system. If you want an opt out, you have to first end the program itself. That has zero chance of passing te US congress.
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Opt out cannot work because people would elect it, then vote themselves gravy if it doesn't work out later. It's an either-or system. No different than paying into the public school system. If you want an opt out, you have to first end the program itself. That has zero chance of passing te US congress.
Agree.
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The only problem with that is if your brilliant plan for retirement doesn't work out, what are you going to do? Kill yourself or live off the government dole?
I would expect that in cases like that, you could have what I would consider a true social safety net - something that an individual could only access if they passed the means test for it. I would expect it would be enough to live on, but maybe not so comfortably. Something like that would be a lot cheaper and probably much more effective than the system we have now.
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I'd implement something where workers are allowed to pay into a plan used only at a predetermined retirement age that is never taxed. Like a 401K with a limit per year and only for those under the age of say 35.

At the same time raising their retirement age to 70.
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I would expect that in cases like that, you could have what I would consider a true social safety net - something that an individual could only access if they passed the means test for it. I would expect it would be enough to live on, but maybe not so comfortably. Something like that would be a lot cheaper and probably much more effective than the system we have now.
Your speaking of a fantasy world. Never pass or get approval.

I know you hate to admit it but Social Security is government at its best. A social safety net provided to all and all contribute.
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