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Old 02-02-2013, 03:54 PM  
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Will Shields Denied HOF

Didn't make the cut.
Jonathan Ogden and Larry Allen still under consideration.

Curley Culp still under consideration.

Damn. That sucks.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:22 PM   #31
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How in the hell does Curly Culp get in before Otis Taylor? Biggest shame among Chief players is no Otis Taylor.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:24 PM   #32
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Parcells got in.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:24 PM   #33
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How in the hell does Curly Culp get in before Otis Taylor? Biggest shame among Chief players is no Otis Taylor.
First nose tackle ever. Revolutionary maybe?
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:45 PM   #34
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First nose tackle ever. Revolutionary maybe?
That's my guess. He went to Houston with that 34 and crushed souls for a few years.

Meanwhile, ****ing Matuszak came here and...left.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:47 PM   #35
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I really don't have a problem with Allen and Ogden getting in over Shields since they were at the same time. Allen was always considered slightly above Shields as a guard, and Ogden was a tackle. Tackles are always considered better than guards. My problem with this vote is Sapp. Sapp was good, but Sapp wasn't 1st ballot great. Bettis, Shields and Haley (especially Haley) should be in before him. It's a joke that being a loudmouth talking piece for ESPN now gets you in the hall before others more deserving.

And dont get me started on his qualifications for a judge on BBQ Pitmasters.
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:57 PM   #36
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I really don't have a problem with Allen and Ogden getting in over Shields since they were at the same time. Allen was always considered slightly above Shields as a guard, and Ogden was a tackle. Tackles are always considered better than guards. My problem with this vote is Sapp. Sapp was good, but Sapp wasn't 1st ballot great. Bettis, Shields and Haley (especially Haley) should be in before him. It's a joke that being a loudmouth talking piece for ESPN now gets you in the hall before others more deserving.

And dont get me started on his qualifications for a judge on BBQ Pitmasters.
You lost me at Bettis. Really, Bettis?
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:12 PM   #37
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You lost me at Bettis. Really, Bettis?
Bettis was considered to be a top 5 RB in the league for about 8 years. Name others that aren't in the HOF that hold that position.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:57 PM   #38
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**** Sapp......he's not one of the best EVER to play his position ...at least enough that would warrant induction on his first time being eligible.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:11 PM   #39
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Who is Curley culp and have even 5 people on this board seen him play?
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:13 PM   #40
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Who is Curley culp and have even 5 people on this board seen him play?
He was the DT who lined up next to Buck Buchanan during the Chiefs 1960's glory years.

I saw his entire Chiefs career.

He was a bad ass. Like Raji for Green Bay, only squatter, and much quicker. He was an NCAA Wrestling Champion at Arizona State, and a total bad-ass.

You should pray that Dontari Poe becomes half the player Curley Culp was.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:21 PM   #41
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Bettis was considered to be a top 5 RB in the league for about 8 years. Name others that aren't in the HOF that hold that position.
No.

Bettis only finished top-5 in rushing 3 times in his 13 year career. The last 5 years his highest finish was 17th.

His career yards per carry average is 3.9. That's not HOF, that's mediocre.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:27 PM   #42
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Who is Curley culp and have even 5 people on this board seen him play?
Curly was beast.

He could not blocked, and is big reason Buck Buchanon made such a big impact.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:29 PM   #43
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Bettis only finished top-5 in rushing 3 times in his 13 year career. The last 5 years his highest finish was 17th.

His career yards per carry average is 3.9. That's not HOF, that's mediocre.
Eddie Georged his way into the hall.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:29 PM   #44
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I did.
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Old 02-02-2013, 07:58 PM   #45
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Will Shields will get there sooner rather than later, i have to believe that, i would take him over Allen eight days a week, he wasnt a huge grizzly bear but his superb technique allowed him to dominate much bigger men, a fact that should have been recognized by the Hall.

His only flaw was being unlucky enough to play for a lot of bad to solid but inherently flawed Chiefs teams that were never nearly as glamorous and hyped as "Merica's" favorite team.

The most important thing is that WE know what a dominant blessing of a rock he was in KC.

Sapp? cant really say what hasnt already been said, it is completely undeserved at this point.

Bettis? i gotta admit it, i'm a HUGE fan... LOVE the way he played ball, LOVED the fact that he was such a classy, team guy every step of the way. I totally disagree with the Eddie George comparison, he NEVER took a defenses heart and fired up his team in the same way as Bettis, not even CLOSE. Jerome routinely CRUSHED other teams star defenders, clowned them... yeah, you can argue some of the stats against other guys... but Bettis deserves to be there, he was a genuine force his entire career and was always pure class.
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