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Feinstein, Conn. Senators Set To Propose Assault Weapons Ban

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...t-weapons-ban/


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“If this bill had been in effect, there would be little girls and boys still alive today in Newtown,” said Murphy, adding how the only inconvenience to sportsmen would be reloading more frequently at shooting ranges because of the smaller magazines.

This is what you hear when idiots speak of things they know nothing about


Not only is this as stupid as it gets, the previous ban did not prevent Columbine....
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Old 01-24-2013, 02:47 PM   #16
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BTW here is the official bill summery(i.e. from cnn)

http://s3.documentcloud.org/document...13-summary.pdf

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Assault Weapons Ban of 2013
Mass shootings in Newtown, Aurora, and Tucson have demonstrated all too clearly the need to
regulate military-style assault weapons and high capacity ammunition magazines. These
weapons allow a gunman to fire a large number of rounds quickly and without having to reload.
The legislation bans the sale, transfer, manufacturing and importation of:

All semiautomatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least one
military feature: pistol grip; forward grip; folding, telescoping, or detachable stock;
grenade launcher or rocket launcher; barrel shroud; or threaded barrel.

All semiautomatic pistols that can accept a detachable magazine and have at least
one military feature: threaded barrel; second pistol grip; barrel shroud; capacity to
accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip; or
semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.

All semiautomatic rifles and handguns that have a fixed magazine with the capacity
to accept more than 10 rounds.

All semiautomatic shotguns that have a folding, telescoping, or detachable stock;
pistol grip; fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds; ability to
accept a detachable magazine; forward grip; grenade launcher or rocket launcher;
or shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

All ammunition feeding devices (magazines, strips, and drums) capable of accepting
more than 10 rounds.

157 specifically-named firearms (listed at the end of this document).

The legislation excludes the following weapons from the bill:

Any weapon that is lawfully possessed at the date of the bill's enactment;
Any firearm manually operated by a bolt, pump, lever or slide action;
Assault weapons used by military, law enforcement, and retired law enforcement; and
Antique weapons.

The legislation protects hunting and sporting firearms:

The bill excludes 2,258 legitimate hunting and sporting rifles and shotguns by
specific make and model.

The legislation strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and state bans by:

Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test.
o The bill also makes the ban harder to evade by eliminating the easy-to-remove
bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test.

Banning dangerous aftermarket modifications and workarounds.
o Bump or slide fire stocks, which are modified stocks that enable semi-automatic
weapons to fire at rates similar to fully automatic machine guns.
o So-called "bullet buttons" that allow the rapid replacement of ammunition
magazines, frequently used as a workaround to prohibitions on detachable
magazines.
o Thumbhole stocks, a type of stock that was created as a workaround to avoid
prohibitions on pistol grips.

Adding a ban on the importation of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines.

Eliminating the 10-year sunset that allowed the original federal ban to expire.

The legislation addresses the millions of assault weapons and large-capacity magazines
currently in existence by:

Requiring a background check on all sales or transfers of a grandfathered assault
weapon.
o This background check can be run through the FBI or, if a state chooses, initiated
with a state agency, as with the existing background check system.

Prohibiting the sale or transfer of large-capacity ammunition feeding devices lawfully
possessed on the date of enactment of the bill.

Allowing states and localities to use federal Byrne JAG grant funds to conduct a
voluntary buy-back program for grandfathered assault weapons and large-capacity
ammunition feeding devices.

Imposing a safe storage requirement for grandfathered firearms, to keep them away from
prohibited persons.

Requiring that assault weapons and large-capacity ammunition feeding devices
manufactured after the date of the bill's enactment be engraved with the serial number
and date of manufacture of the weapon

Assault Weapon Bans Have Been Proven to Be Effective
The 1994 Assault Weapons Ban was effective at reducing crime and getting these military-style
weapons off our streets. Since the ban expired, more than 350 people have been killed and more
than 450 injured by these weapons.

A Justice Department study of the assault weapons ban found that it was responsible for a
6.7% decrease in total gun murders, holding all other factors equal.
Source: Jeffrey A. Roth & Christopher S. Koper, "Impact Evaluation of the Public
Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act of 1994," (March 1997).

The same study also found that "Assault weapons are disproportionately involved in
murders with multiple victims, multiple wounds per victim, and police officers as
victims."

The use of assault weapons in crime declined by more than two-thirds by about nine
years after 1994 Assault Weapons Ban took effect.
o Source: Christopher S. Koper, "An Updated Assessment of the Federal Assault
Weapons Ban: Impacts on Gun Markets and Gun Violence, 1994-2003" (June
2004), University of Pennsylvania, Report to the National Institute of Justice, U.S.
Department of Justice.

The percentage of firearms seized by police in Virginia that had high-capacity
magazines dropped significantly during the ban. That figure has doubled since the
ban expired.
o Source: David S. Fallis and James V. Grimaldi, "In Virginia, high-yield clip
seizures rise," Washington Post, at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/...012204046.html

When Maryland imposed a more stringent ban on assault pistols and high-capacity
magazines in 1994, it led to a 55% drop in assault pistols recovered by the Baltimore
Police Department.
o Source: Douglas S. Weil & Rebecca C. Knox, Letter to the Editor, The Maryland
Ban on the Sale of Assault Pistols and High-Capacity Magazines: Estimating the
Impact in Baltimore, 87 Am. J. of Public Health 2, Feb. 1997..


37% of police departments reported seeing a noticeable increase in criminals' use of
assault weapons since the 1994 federal ban expired.
o Source: Police Executive Research Forum, Guns and Crime: Breaking New
Ground by Focusing on the Local Impact (May 2010).


List of Firearms Prohibited by Name
Rifles: All AK types, including the following: AK, AK47, AK47S, AK-74, AKM, AKS, ARM,
MAK90, MISR, NHM90, NHM91, Rock River Arms LAR-47, SA85, SA93, Vector Arms AK-
47, VEPR, WASR-10, and WUM, IZHMASH Saiga AK, MAADI AK47 and ARM, Norinco
56S, 56S2, 84S, and 86S, Poly Technologies AK47 and AKS; All AR types, including the
following: AR-10, AR-15, Armalite M15 22LR Carbine, Armalite M15-T, Barrett REC7,
Beretta AR-70, Bushmaster ACR, Bushmaster Carbon 15, Bushmaster MOE series, Bushmaster
XM15, Colt Match Target Rifles, DoubleStar AR rifles, DPMS Tactical Rifles, Heckler & Koch
MR556, Olympic Arms, Remington R-15 rifles, Rock River Arms LAR-15, Sig Sauer SIG516
rifles, Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles, Stag Arms AR rifles, Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 rifles;
Barrett M107A1; Barrett M82A1; Beretta CX4 Storm; Calico Liberty Series; CETME Sporter;
Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C; Fabrique Nationale/FN Herstal FAL,
LAR, 22 FNC, 308 Match, L1A1 Sporter, PS90, SCAR, and FS2000; Feather Industries AT-9;
Galil Model AR and Model ARM; Hi-Point Carbine; HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1 and
HK USC; Kel-Tec Sub-2000, SU-16, and RFB; SIG AMT, SIG PE-57, Sig Sauer SG 550, and
Sig Sauer SG 551; Springfield Armory SAR-48; Steyr AUG; Sturm, Ruger Mini-14 Tactical
Rife M-14/20CF; All Thompson rifles, including the following: Thompson M1SB, Thompson
T1100D, Thompson T150D, Thompson T1B, Thompson T1B100D, Thompson T1B50D,
Thompson T1BSB, Thompson T1-C, Thompson T1D, Thompson T1SB, Thompson T5,
Thompson T5100D, Thompson TM1, Thompson TM1C; UMAREX UZI Rifle; UZI Mini
Carbine, UZI Model A Carbine, and UZI Model B Carbine; Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78;
Vector Arms UZI Type; Weaver Arms Nighthawk; Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine.
Pistols: All AK-47 types, including the following: Centurion 39 AK pistol, Draco AK-47 pistol,
HCR AK-47 pistol, IO Inc. Hellpup AK-47 pistol, Krinkov pistol, Mini Draco AK-47 pistol,
Yugo Krebs Krink pistol; All AR-15 types, including the following: American Spirit AR-15
pistol, Bushmaster Carbon 15 pistol, DoubleStar Corporation AR pistol, DPMS AR-15 pistol,
Olympic Arms AR-15 pistol, Rock River Arms LAR 15 pistol; Calico Liberty pistols; DSA
SA58 PKP FAL pistol; Encom MP-9 and MP-45; Heckler & Koch model SP-89 pistol; Intratec
AB-10, TEC-22 Scorpion, TEC-9, and TEC-DC9; Kel-Tec PLR 16 pistol; The following MAC
types: MAC-10, MAC-11; Masterpiece Arms MPA A930 Mini Pistol, MPA460 Pistol, MPA
Tactical Pistol, and MPA Mini Tactical Pistol; Military Armament Corp. Ingram M-11, Velocity
Arms VMAC; Sig Sauer P556 pistol; Sites Spectre; All Thompson types, including the following:
Thompson TA510D, Thompson TA5; All UZI types, including: Micro-UZI.
Shotguns: Franchi LAW-12 and SPAS 12; All IZHMASH Saiga 12 types, including the
following: IZHMASH Saiga 12, IZHMASH Saiga 12S, IZHMASH Saiga 12S EXP-01,
IZHMASH Saiga 12K, IZHMASH Saiga 12K-030, IZHMASH Saiga 12K-040 Taktika;
Streetsweeper; Striker 12.
Belt-fed semiautomatic firearms: All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms including TNW M2HB.
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:11 PM   #17
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BTW I just noticed this....how many rifles and shotguns have the ability to accept a rocket launcher on them?

At least my pistols are still allowed to have rocket launchers attached to them.
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:12 PM   #18
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:14 PM   #19
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Bigots are everywhere unfortunately for us they tend to gravitate towards positions of 'power'.
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:32 PM   #20
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Btw Nazistein has put up the full text of the bill up.
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/publ...f-69e69f517fb4

As written since it says semi-auto versions of automatic pistols are 'assault weapon'. They can declare the most popular handguns made as illegal to manufacture.

No fullsize glocks
No beretta 9X variants
No 1911s
No CZ75s
No Lugers

Because all of those handguns posses at least one version that is fully automatic. And there you have it the greatest handgun ban in history.
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Old 01-25-2013, 06:51 PM   #21
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Btw Nazistein has put up the full text of the bill up.
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/publ...f-69e69f517fb4

As written since it says semi-auto versions of automatic pistols are 'assault weapon'. They can declare the most popular handguns made as illegal to manufacture.

No fullsize glocks
No beretta 9X variants
No 1911s
No CZ75s
No Lugers

Because all of those handguns posses at least one version that is fully automatic. And there you have it the greatest handgun ban in history.
And no weapons ban...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...ss-senate.html


Love the part where they try to exploit the kids to get their way
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Assault Weapon Bans Have Been Proven to Be Effective
The 1994 Assault Weapons Ban was effective at reducing crime and getting these military-style
weapons off our streets. Since the ban expired, more than 350 people have been killed and more
than 450 injured by these weapons.
So you have roughly averaged 43 people a year killed with the so called "Assault Rifle" in the last 8 years. That stat right there should tell you all you need to know about the motives of the politicians pushing this.
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