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Old 12-26-2012, 06:21 PM  
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Anti-Gun Newspaper Outs Law-Abiding Gun Owners

If this is buried somewhere, I didn't see it. Don't really give a shit if it's a repost, either.

http://www.lohud.com/usatoday/article/1791507

N.Y. newspaper's gun-owner database draws criticism

WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. -- Thousands of people have taken to their computers and phones in rage after The Journal News posted an online database of local gun-permit holders.

The database, legally obtained from the County Clerks' Offices through a Freedom of Information Act request made after the shootings in Sandy Hook, Conn., that left 20 children and eight adults dead, has been called irresponsible, dangerous and leaning toward intimidation by online pundits.

Social media played a big part in the exponential spread of the story, whose map has been recommended more than 20,000 times. Two Facebo

Numerous additional comments relating to the gun-permit map have appeared on posts in other unrelated articles. More than a dozen more people sent private messages via Facebook objecting to the map. The overwhelming majority of comments strongly object to the article.ok posts linking to the article on Sunday garnered 346 comments as of Tuesday evening. That's in addition to 167 comments posted directly to Facebook.com/LoHud since the article was published.

The database also was mentioned in the Drudge Report, Memorandum.com, Breitbart.com, Thegatewaypundit.com, Instapundit, iOwnTheWorld.com and UrbanGrounds, along with Yahoo, ABC News and Fox News, among others.

More than 500 comments -- on both sides of the debate -- accompanied an article on CNN.com Tuesday.

The Journal News is owned by Gannett Co. Inc., which is also the parent company of USA TODAY.

Hundreds of callers have complained, claiming publication of the database put their safety at risk or violated their privacy. Others claimed publication was illegal. Many of the callers were vitriolic and some threatened members of the newspaper staff.

"New York residents have the right to own guns with a permit and they also have a right to access public information," said Janet Hasson, president and publisher of The Journal News Media Group.

Robert Freeman, executive director of the state Committee on Open Government and an expert in the state's Freedom of Information law, has said all government records and data are presumed public unless a specific statute bars their release. Names and addresses are specifically deemed public records, he said.

This is not the first time The Journal News has been criticized for publishing information about gun permits. A similar article in 2006 received similar responses, although social media did not play as large a part in the spread of the article or of the complaints.

"We knew publication of the database would be controversial, but we felt sharing as much information as we could about gun ownership in our area was important in the aftermath of the Newtown shootings," said CynDee Royle, editor and vice president/news.

"People are concerned about who owns guns and how many of them there are in their neighborhoods," she said. "Our Freedom of Information request also sought specifics on how many and what types of weapons people owned. That portion of the request was denied."

Scott F. Williams, 41, of Haddon Heights, N.J., who served in the Marines as a rifleman, was one of the very few callers who agreed to identify themselves and comment on why they called.

"This is what I see," he said. "It's all in the context of the shootings in Newtown ... it gets us all talking about gun control. That people are at a heightened concern makes sense to me. I am a gun owner and a pro-Second-Amendment (person). I try to be rational." He called the newspaper's decision to link to the database "highly Orwellian."

"The implications are mind-boggling," he said. "It's as if gun owners are sex offenders (and) to own a handgun risks exposure as if one is a sex offender. It's, in my mind, crazy."

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Welcome to the Peoples Republik of New York, kids. Frankly, I don't know what's worse - the fact that this ****ing liberal rag actually did this, or the fact that some dumbass government official felt it was appropriate to release the information. Outing law abiding citizens guilty of nothing but exercising their constitutional rights - what a disgusting, despicable, dangerous abuse of power and betrayal of the public trust. Sane people don't advertise to their neighbors that they own guns - they don't flash them in the window, they don't have GUNS HERE INQUIRE WITHIN signs in their yards. Just like conceal carry, anonymity is important here. Now any punk who clicks on this site will know where they can go steal a gun. It essentially rings the dinner bell for them - just find a remote house on this list, and if nobody's home, break in and start looking. I guess if these gun owners didn't have alarm systems before, they'd better get one now. And so much for leaving your pistol in the nightstand - now you'll need an expensive safe. Thank God most thieving scumbags who'd steal guns don't read the news (or anything else), but surely somebody's going to take advantage of this, and when it happens, I sure as hell hope these ****ing vermin are held accountable for their irresponsible actions.

If my name and address was on this list..... well, my reaction sure as **** wouldn't be a sternly-worded e-mail.

But of course, these vile twats will hide behind the First Amendment. Gotta love people shitting on Constitution and then hiding behind it when the outrage hits.

And that idiot Direckshun had the balls to complain about the money the NRA raises, when the opposition has the ability to pull crap like this.

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Old 01-02-2013, 08:11 PM   #136
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What purpose did publishing the names serve?
It was part of a fear mongering article that touted the dangers of gun proliferation. The map was published with the intent of making readers uneasy about the number of registered gun owners in a particular area.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:52 AM   #137
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House on gun owner map burglarized. Looks like the thieves went straight for the guns, luckily they were unsuccessful. New legislation to be introduced to protect privacy.
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Old 01-14-2013, 12:07 PM   #138
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House on gun owner map burglarized. Looks like the thieves went straight for the guns, luckily they were unsuccessful. New legislation to be introduced to protect privacy.
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From the article. Saying they went straight for the guns is a quite the leap.

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Old 01-14-2013, 12:14 PM   #139
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From the article. Saying they went straight for the guns is a quite the leap.
I watched it on TV & thats what they said they went after. Used a neighbors ladder to get in. But hey,you go on believing what ever the **** it is you want
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Old 01-14-2013, 12:16 PM   #140
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I watched it on TV & thats what they said they went after. Used a neighbors ladder to get in. But hey,you go on believing what ever the **** it is you want
The burglars themselves said that's what they were going after? I just wonder, was anything else disturbed/missing?
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Old 01-14-2013, 12:20 PM   #141
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The burglars themselves said that's what they were going after? I just wonder, was anything else disturbed/missing?
Not that I heard.
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Old 01-14-2013, 01:04 PM   #142
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So they took the ladder from a house that wasn't on the list, and used it to break into a house that was on the list?

But we're supposed to believe that's a coincidence, right?

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Too bad the owner wasn't home. There would be one less shitbag in the world.
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Too bad the owner wasn't home. There would be one less shitbag in the world.
Either that, or the owner would have been screwed because all the guns were locked up in a ****ing safe.
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Either that, or the owner would have been screwed because all the guns were locked up in a ****ing safe.
Ohhhhh, that's why the guns couldn't jump out and shoot a 4 year old child playing with legos.
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Ohhhhh, that's why the guns couldn't jump out and shoot a 4 year old child playing with legos.
Yeah, that's a problem. Just the other day my .40 and .38 were conspiring to shoot the barking dog across the street, but luckily the AK talked them out of it.

Gotta keep an eye on them, every minute!
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Yeah, that's a problem. Just the other day my .40 and .38 were conspiring to shoot the barking dog across the street, but luckily the AK talked them out of it.
Now thats funny!
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Yeah, that's a problem. Just the other day my .40 and .38 were conspiring to shoot the barking dog across the street, but luckily the AK talked them out of it.

Gotta keep an eye on them, every minute!
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I watched it on TV & thats what they said they went after. Used a neighbors ladder to get in. But hey,you go on believing what ever the **** it is you want
What we really need is ladder control.
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Yeah, that's a problem. Just the other day my .40 and .38 were conspiring to shoot the barking dog across the street, but luckily the AK talked them out of it.

Gotta keep an eye on them, every minute!
Damn you're lucky to have a bi-lingual AK. Mine only speaks russian and my 45s would probably just be offended that a 'commie bastard' was trying to not have them shoot!
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