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Old 09-24-2012, 11:53 AM  
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Nightfyre's initial QB rankings

My current QB rankings:
1) Geno Smith
t2) Tyler Wilson
t2) Matt Barkley
4) Logan Thomas
5) EJ Manuel
6) Aaron Murray
7) AJ McCarron
8) Tyler Bray
9) Landry Jones

Just thought you might all like to know.
Just to keep the record straight, my history is as follows:
2009: I was on the draft Sanchez bandwagon
2010: I was on the draft Bradford/Clausen bandwagon
2011: I was against Cam Newton and Jake Locker, but on board with Gabbert, Ponder and Mallett in the second AND third
2012: I was on the Andrew Luck bandwagon in early 2011 and was probably one of the first here to get on the RGIII bandwagon. I also proposed drafting Russell Wilson in the third and was among his biggest advocates here.

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Old 12-17-2012, 05:16 PM   #61
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When I've watched Bray, he hasn't been accurate at all.
See when I've watched him he's been pinpoint accurate with his WRs dropping perfect passes thrown right on the numbers or right in their hands.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:58 PM   #62
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I just haven't seen that.
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:35 PM   #63
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I just haven't seen that.
tw probably just misunderstood his dad
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:04 AM   #64
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I guess you all are convinced Bray will magically grow up when he enters the NFL?
Magically? No. But the thing about 'growing up' is that it tends to happen as you age.

Bray has some maturing to do, no question. But you know what - it's happened before and it will happen again. If it happens with Bray and if he's able to get his footwork ironed out, he has the best set of physical tools in the draft.

Bray's problem is his feet and his maturity. He's not gunshy, he's not jittery, he's just very very inconsistent with his feet.

Ultimately that worries me more than his maturity. Bigger assholes than Bray have learned to straighten up and fly right. For some reason bad feet appear to be the toughest thing for QBs to fix, especially really bad feet.
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Old 12-20-2012, 11:09 AM   #65
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Mine
  1. Geno Smith
  2. Bray
  3. Wilson
  4. Barkley

the rest are fodder
That's how I view it. Although Bray would have a huge asterisk because of the off-field/leadership issues.
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Old 12-20-2012, 07:26 PM   #66
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I have Bray that high as well, but I don't think GM's will overlook his past.
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Old 12-27-2012, 12:40 PM   #67
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:29 PM   #68
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I highly doubt he declares, but if he does then I can see David Fales shooting up boards and possibly be the 2nd QB off the board. The guy is impressive.

McShay is a clueless moron and called him a priority UDFA today. These guys suck until the NFL starts feeding them info. He's a 2nd rounder at worst if he's above 6'2. He's listed as 6'3 but that doesn't seem to be accurate.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:02 PM   #69
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I highly doubt he declares, but if he does then I can see David Fales shooting up boards and possibly be the 2nd QB off the board. The guy is impressive.

McShay is a clueless moron and called him a priority UDFA today. These guys suck until the NFL starts feeding them info. He's a 2nd rounder at worst if he's above 6'2. He's listed as 6'3 but that doesn't seem to be accurate.
Really? I just turned on his snaps vs. Stanford. Nice pocket presence and made an accurate throw on the run so far.
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Old 12-27-2012, 08:35 PM   #70
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I like bray over Smith. I've tried to like Smith as our savior. But I can't. Bray is the only qb in this draft that I feel to be a sure thing.
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:48 AM   #71
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Really? I just turned on his snaps vs. Stanford. Nice pocket presence and made an accurate throw on the run so far.
Yeah I really think so. No one really jumps out at me behind Geno. I like Wilson but that second tier is all lumped together to me. Depends on what teams are looking for.

But everytime I've watched Fales he has impressed me with his pocket presence, accuracy, and ability to get through his progressions when necessary. He makes smart decisions and is playing with crap around him, but elevating their play tremendously.

They almost beat Stanford on the road for ffs.

I'm almost looking for something negative at this point since it blows my mind how this guy ended up at San Jose State but I come away impressed everytime I watch him. I'd say his size and arm strength are his weaknesses but I also believe both are more than adequate for the NFL level. He was great last night in their bowl game.

I think I'm ready to move him ahead of Wilson as my 2nd favorite draft eligible QB.
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Old 12-28-2012, 01:14 PM   #72
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Watching Fales in the Stanford game and here are some of my takeaways:
+ He works his progressions quickly.
+ He drives the ball well to the outside in the short passing game.
+ He has good pocket presence and is elusive in the pocket
- His pre-snap reads are not good and he fails to account for the safety during his progressions at times.
- He lacks the ability to drive the ball on intermediate routes.
- Overall he doesn't have an NFL arm. Anything over ~25 yards is floating.
- His accuracy is inconsistent. His wide receivers wound up having to make a lot of adjustments and he tends to throw behind them.
- He seems to have a ball pat that slows down his release.
He is an awfully short 6'3" if you ask me and an awfully skinny 220.

Just my take after watching the one youtube.
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Old 12-28-2012, 01:16 PM   #73
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I like bray over Smith. I've tried to like Smith as our savior. But I can't. Bray is the only qb in this draft that I feel to be a sure thing.
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Old 12-28-2012, 01:19 PM   #74
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I like bray over Smith. I've tried to like Smith as our savior. But I can't. Bray is the only qb in this draft that I feel to be a sure thing.
Bray is a sure thing?
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After seeing Wilson's success this year I wouldn't mind Tajh Boyd in the third round.
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