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This team is just plain awful. The only consistently good play on offense comes from Bowe and Charles. Daboll is, I'm sure a great person, but an awful offensive coordinator. While I understand that trying to lead this team is "like trying to drive a car with 4 flat tires"... it is incomprehensible to me how he can misuse the little talent that he does have. Romeo was the right man for the job regarding Belcher. He is still not the guy to coach this team into playoff contention and a Super Bowl.

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Old 12-14-2012, 08:58 AM   #7756
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The people who support SOC are obviously all on board with "FIRE PIOLI".

If you add "DRAFT GENO" to that, you're going to lose some of the people who want to fire Pioli and draft Barkley or fire Pioli and sign Alex Smith or fire Pioli and get two mid-round QBs to compete with Brady Quinn, or whatever.

If you add something less specific, like "DRAFT A QB IN THE 1ST", you'll have less erosion of support from the fire Pioli crowd, but there will probably still be some who would rather defer to Pioli's successor (who might choose to trade for a QB instead, for example).
I wasn't EVER suggesting we mention Geno Smith by name.

By and large, the people who don't want a QB are also the people that think Pioli is staying (or should stay). We'll NEVER reach those people, regardless of our message.

Again, other than beating a dead horse and satisfying some fans who just can't be patient, what purpose does another "fire Pioli" banner do?
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:58 AM   #7757
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I don't perceive a divide. Not a meaningful one, anyway.
There was a considerable backlash to the SOC message in the beginning and there's still people on Facebook that think it's classless and deranged.
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:59 AM   #7758
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Pioli's successor (who might choose to trade for a QB instead, for example).
All the MORE reason to get the "draft a QB" message out.

Trading for somebody else's sloppy seconds is NOT ACCEPTABLE.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:20 AM   #7759
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I wasn't EVER suggesting we mention Geno Smith by name.
You never mentioned it, but it has certainly been suggested. I use it as an extreme example to illustrate the point.

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By and large, the people who don't want a QB are also the people that think Pioli is staying (or should stay). We'll NEVER reach those people, regardless of our message.

Again, other than beating a dead horse and satisfying some fans who just can't be patient, what purpose does another "fire Pioli" banner do?
The primary purpose is maintaining a consistent message and the secondary purpose is to avoid coming across like some fantasy GM wannabes.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:23 AM   #7760
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The primary purpose is maintaining a consistent message
This has already been accomplished. No need for any more banners.

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and the secondary purpose is to avoid coming across like some fantasy GM wannabes.
That perception existed the second the first banner flew.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:25 AM   #7761
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All the MORE reason to get the "draft a QB" message out.

Trading for somebody else's sloppy seconds is NOT ACCEPTABLE.
See, you just lost me. I'd rather trade for Brett Favre than draft David Klingler, Tommy Maddox, or Dave Brown (the three 1st round QBs taken the year Green Bay traded their first round pick for Favre).

I think it would be great if the Chiefs use the #1 pick overall on a QB who ends up being a stud. But I'd prefer getting a stud in any way possible over drafting a #1 bust and if a new GM isn't better at figuring out which option is most likely to lead to a stud than I am, we've got the wrong new GM.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:27 AM   #7762
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This has already been accomplished. No need for any more banners.
OK, like I said, we'll have to agree to disagree on this.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:28 AM   #7763
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See, you just lost me. I'd rather trade for Brett Favre than draft David Klingler, Tommy Maddox, or Dave Brown (the three 1st round QBs taken the year Green Bay traded their first round pick for Favre).

I think it would be great if the Chiefs use the #1 pick overall on a QB who ends up being a stud. But I'd prefer getting a stud in any way possible over drafting a #1 bust and if a new GM isn't better at figuring out which option is most likely to lead to a stud than I am, we've got the wrong new GM.
So who is that guy you're trading for then? The Brett Favre that got traded from Atlanta to Green Bay doesn't exist in the modern NFL. Guys don't sit on the bench anymore, if they're decent, they play.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter.

If they don't draft a QB, we won't be having anymore of these discussions because I'm ****ing done with this stupid ****ing franchise.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:32 AM   #7764
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So who is that guy you're trading for then? The Brett Favre that got traded from Atlanta to Green Bay doesn't exist in the modern NFL. Guys don't sit on the bench anymore, if they're decent, they play.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter.

If they don't draft a QB, we won't be having anymore of these discussions because I'm ****ing done with this stupid ****ing franchise.
If he doesn't exist, then the smart new GM Clark hires won't trade for him and all will be well. If the smart new GM thinks that Kirk Cousins or Ryan Mallet is a better prospect than any of the draft prospects, then I'd rather have Cousins or Mallet. I know I'm not as smart as the smart new GM that Clark should hire and, when it comes to talent evaluation, I sure hope he's smarter than any other ChiefsPlanet poster too. That's not a shot at CP posters, it's a sincere hope.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:47 AM   #7765
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See, you just lost me. I'd rather trade for Brett Favre than draft David Klingler, Tommy Maddox, or Dave Brown (the three 1st round QBs taken the year Green Bay traded their first round pick for Favre).

I think it would be great if the Chiefs use the #1 pick overall on a QB who ends up being a stud. But I'd prefer getting a stud in any way possible over drafting a #1 bust and if a new GM isn't better at figuring out which option is most likely to lead to a stud than I am, we've got the wrong new GM.
We'll take your #1 for Mark Sanchez.

Just putting it out there.
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Old 12-14-2012, 09:47 AM   #7766
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If he doesn't exist, then the smart new GM Clark hires won't trade for him and all will be well. If the smart new GM thinks that Kirk Cousins or Ryan Mallet is a better prospect than any of the draft prospects, then I'd rather have Cousins or Mallet. I know I'm not as smart as the smart new GM that Clark should hire and, when it comes to talent evaluation, I sure hope he's smarter than any other ChiefsPlanet poster too. That's not a shot at CP posters, it's a sincere hope.
If the smart new GM thinks Cousins or Mallett is a better prospect than any of the ones in the draft, he isn't smart. He's a ****ing idiot.
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:57 AM   #7767
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All the MORE reason to get the "draft a QB" message out.

Trading for somebody else's sloppy seconds is NOT ACCEPTABLE.
1st round QBs won 56% of SBs-Saveourchiefs.com

God, I wish we could find a way to fit this.
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:07 AM   #7768
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Old 12-14-2012, 11:28 AM   #7769
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If the smart new GM thinks Cousins or Mallett is a better prospect than any of the ones in the draft, he isn't smart. He's a ****ing idiot.
OK, whatever you say. If only Clark would hire you to be the new GM. Our Superbowl drought would be as good as over.

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Old 12-14-2012, 11:41 AM   #7770
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OK, whatever you say. If only Clark would hire you to be the new GM. Our Superbowl drought would be as good as over.

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