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Old 11-21-2012, 05:07 PM  
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Mellinger | Ex-GM Peterson ‘saddened’ by Chiefs’ situation

Sam Mellinger | Ex-GM Peterson ‘saddened’ by Chiefs’ situation
By SAM MELLINGER
The Kansas City Star
Carl Peterson knows exactly why I called. He knows why some Chiefs fans want to hear from him. In some real ways, this conversation is a beach ball of schadenfreude placed on a tee for the man who effectively ran all things Chiefs for nearly 20 years, then was fired four years ago with his reputation in Kansas City at least frayed.

Peterson knows all of this. He won’t take his biggest swing.

But he will make solid contact.

“I guess like every Chiefs fan, I’m disappointed and I’m saddened by what’s transpired there,” he says. “I think I know and made a real point to learn who the Chiefs fans were and what they wanted. I feel for them, because I’ve always felt the Kansas City Chiefs were, should be, and could be a great franchise.”

There’s more.

“I was very, very fortunate to work for Lamar Hunt for 18 of my 20 years there. He’s the guy who made the difference for me. They’ve fallen on hard times. That’s for sure.”

The point here is not just for Peterson to dance on the Chiefs’ rubble. There is some perspective in remembering what he and Lamar Hunt made together. They built the Chiefs’ brand in the 1990s. Through much of the 1980s, the team was a local afterthought. If they won, cool. If they lost, whatever. Nobody much noticed.

That began to change when Hunt hired Peterson, and Peterson hired coach Marty Schottenheimer and the whole thing just took off, with seven playoff appearances in the first eight years of the 1990s.

The Chiefs’ parking lot became the biggest party in Kansas City. Arrowhead Stadium became one of the toughest places to play in the NFL. Peterson, who lives in New York now, is one of the strongest connections we have to that time.

“We had fun at it,” he says. “We made it a fun thing. We made it a family thing. Lamar believed very much in that, and I did, too. He was a wonderful owner. He’d say, ‘How can I help?’ I’d say, ‘Lamar, I need you to do a contest in the parking lot to judge buses and vans that fans have painted,’ and he loved that.”

Now, of course, that is all different. Lamar’s son Clark fired Peterson two years after taking over, and Peterson says the two never communicate.

The Chiefs made massive personnel changes after Peterson was fired, often dropping thinly veiled shots along the way. Peterson hasn’t been back to Arrowhead since, and remains touchy about not being invited to Schottenheimer’s induction to the team’s Ring of Honor.

It is a vastly different franchise now, and when Scott Pioli took over for Peterson after a 2-14 disaster in 2008, that was part of the point. The Chiefs were broken and needed fixing. A youth movement that started under Peterson — Brandon Flowers, Tamba Hali, Jamaal Charles, Derrick Johnson and other key players who predate Pioli — needed structure, and until this season, there was reason for optimism.

Now, the big story out of the parking lot before Sunday’s loss to the Bengals was the team stopping the mass distribution of flyers listing some unflattering facts about the Chiefs on one side and “FIRE PIOLI” on the other.

The Chiefs have never had a disconnect with their fans like this. That was always a priority with Peterson, sometimes to the point of being criticism. The common knock on the Chiefs was that they cared more about filling the stadium than advancing in the playoffs.

Now, team and town would settle for a fun atmosphere and competitive team. The last man to oversee a run like that watches from a distance.

“I do come back to Kansas City,” he says. “I still have a home there. People on the street, they’re very disappointed. Some of them are angry at what’s transpired. I’m sorry to see that. It’s no longer my watch, so I can have my personal feelings about it, but it’s not my responsibility anymore.”
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:07 PM   #121
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Peterson was a shitty GM and general POS who makes Pioli look like a 'Genious' choirboy.
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:09 PM   #122
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:14 PM   #123
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Spending under the cap, regarless of your hire being a dipshit dumbass, says a lot in and of itself. I get your point, but he's a daddy's boy, and never had to think, just put daddy's credit card on the counter to get what he wanted. Let's hope he finally remembers that he got what he wanted when he spent the money he had made available to him for no effort spent getting said money.

I still think he's too stupid to know that money invested int he team and the players (not luxury suites) will make more money down the road..
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:38 PM   #124
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The article touched base on many of the issues I've brought up before about Carl. Carl had some good and some bad as we all know. Carl WAS actually a darn good GM for quite a long time but he stayed to long in the end and things came crashing down. The franchise was NEVER in as bad of shape as it is now under Carl. We at least still had the Chiefs atmosphere!

One thing we can't take away from him is the fact he made Arrowhead and the Chiefs in general a lot of fun for the players, the fan base and community. The atmosphere around the Chiefs were one of togetherness. With the players being out in the forefront with charity events, Carl on the radio, players having radio shows, the charcters (fans) the Chiefs allowed to blossom inside Arrowhead, the Red Coats, the openess to the media, etc.

Now none of that exsist (outside of the Red Coats)! The players are brought out as gladitors and not people anymore. It is hard to have favorite players as the people don't know the players as a human being. Everything is gloom and doom with the franchise on lock down. There is absolutely nothing fun or exciting about this franchise anymore. That all starts and ends with Scott Pioli. He has driven this franchise so far into the ground it isn't even funny. Like him or not, Carl at least made the Chiefs the talk of the town and region!
This. The fact that no player has a foundation, radio show or TV show... means we don't get to know the players... Pioli has shit on this team.

This makes me sad.
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:42 PM   #125
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This. The fact that no player has a foundation, radio show or TV show... means we don't get to know the players... Pioli has shit on this team.

This makes me sad.
you're just pissed because they banned you/deleted your post on their forum or something.
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:44 PM   #126
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You realize he was spending under the cap in part because of Pioli.

Patriot Way doesn't like to spend.
Yes, but it was perfect, he bought two new video games for the jet and that's all he cared about at that second!
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:46 PM   #127
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Peterson was a shitty GM and general POS who makes Pioli look like a 'Genious' choirboy.
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:48 PM   #128
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You are why we're 1-9! You don't get how a company's owner owns all the failures of his company, no matter what. This is why you live life in a cube, or on a roof!

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Old 11-22-2012, 05:05 PM   #129
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Yep. Insert the names of Marty, Cowher, and any other former coach/personnel person that has ever worked here in the past.

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Old 11-22-2012, 05:46 PM   #130
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You are why we're 1-9! You don't get how a company's owner owns all the failures of his company, no matter what. This is why you live life in a cube, or on a roof!

Hunt loves you, he needs you.....he prays you stick around!
I have nothing to do with this team sucking.

You just make stupid, make believe and non-rational posts
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Old 11-22-2012, 05:52 PM   #131
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Right... Like I said, you, and people like you, are the reason we are 1-9. You don't like what you hear, you won't blame the root of the cause, and you want everything sugar-coated! Well, thank you for adding to Hunt's dream of easy money!
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:04 PM   #132
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Right... Like I said, you, and people like you, are the reason we are 1-9. You don't like what you hear, you won't blame the root of the cause, and you want everything sugar-coated! Well, thank you for adding to Hunt's dream of easy money!
Ok? Another post that makes absolutely no ****ing sense.
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:18 PM   #133
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Well, learn to read Mr. 1st grade! Like I said, enjoy your cube, you'll be there a while.

Wow, I've seen dumb, then there's you...
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Old 11-22-2012, 07:08 PM   #134
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Well, learn to read Mr. 1st grade! Like I said, enjoy your cube, you'll be there a while.

Wow, I've seen dumb, then there's you...
You're right I live in a cube, or on a roof...

Whatever that ****ing means.

You are a dumb shit. Keep proving it with more posts
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Kudos to Carl for being classy. In a way I'm thankful that Pioli's ineptness and assholism has made Carl's tenure here look like Camelot.
WTF? Just because Mussolini murdered less people than Hitler doesn't make Italy a Camelot.

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