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Old 11-17-2012, 05:58 AM  
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Racial Slurs

We're having some posts being reported for the use of racial slurs in this forum. While it is widely known that there is some racism that goes on in this forum, those users have found a way to dance around the issue enough that the majority of moderators of this website have deemed the behavior fine for now.

It's really not okay to me at all. I don't believe that people of color should be subjected to that shit over political affiliations. That said, I'm a firm believer in a majority consensus so it is what it is at this point.

That said, overtly racial slurs will result in bannings. It is a bullet point in the TOS of this website, and not much is out of bounds. One user has already been banned, and another one has been warned. If you insist on trying to dance around racist comments, please be prepared for a vacation if you use a term that is deemed racist by the moderators. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:39 PM   #376
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i would have gone with 64 when the civil rights act was passed instead of 70 though...
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:02 AM   #377
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i would have gone with 64 when the civil rights act was passed instead of 70 though...
It's hard to pin down, really. Certainly there were people who were born (and raised) here before 1970 that you wouldn't consider racist. And it's not like a gigantic anti-racist wave magically spread over the entire country at some point in the past, it just became less and less acceptable over the decades.

My dad was born in 1938. When he was very young he met another boy in his neighborhood and quickly became friends with him. They played for hours in front of my dad's house the first day they met. When my dad came inside, his (very pissed off) dad told him, "I don't ever want to see you playing with that ****er boy again."

My dad was crushed. He walked into the kitchen and sat at the table near his mom. He started to complain and his mom said, "You heard your dad. He doesn't ever want to see you play with that boy again." So after that they always left the neighborhood to play and remained good friends for years until they lost track of each other. This was in the 40's. It made enough of an impression that my dad told me that story about forty years later.

My dad wasn't Politically Correct by any means. He knew the crappiest racist jokes and would tell them just to see how you'd react. I remember him saying once, in his own living room, "Black people are great, everybody should own one." And yet he never failed to treat people with respect who were different than him...unless they lost his respect. He'd tell jokes or make comments about gay people but I found out after he died that not only did he know that my step uncle (unrelated to him) was gay (big family secret), but treated him with dignity and respect. Uncommon in that time period and in that location.

I think, for the most part, people who weren't dicks knew that racism was wrong well before our magic enlightenment. It was socially acceptable though. So that just made it easier to be a dick. I think the mods are just trying to make sure that it doesn't become socially acceptable here.
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:24 AM   #378
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:45 AM   #379
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It's hard to pin down, really. Certainly there were people who were born (and raised) here before 1970 that you wouldn't consider racist. And it's not like a gigantic anti-racist wave magically spread over the entire country at some point in the past, it just became less and less acceptable over the decades.

My dad was born in 1938. When he was very young he met another boy in his neighborhood and quickly became friends with him. They played for hours in front of my dad's house the first day they met. When my dad came inside, his (very pissed off) dad told him, "I don't ever want to see you playing with that ****er boy again."

My dad was crushed. He walked into the kitchen and sat at the table near his mom. He started to complain and his mom said, "You heard your dad. He doesn't ever want to see you play with that boy again." So after that they always left the neighborhood to play and remained good friends for years until they lost track of each other. This was in the 40's. It made enough of an impression that my dad told me that story about forty years later.

My dad wasn't Politically Correct by any means. He knew the crappiest racist jokes and would tell them just to see how you'd react. I remember him saying once, in his own living room, "Black people are great, everybody should own one." And yet he never failed to treat people with respect who were different than him...unless they lost his respect. He'd tell jokes or make comments about gay people but I found out after he died that not only did he know that my step uncle (unrelated to him) was gay (big family secret), but treated him with dignity and respect. Uncommon in that time period and in that location.

I think, for the most part, people who weren't dicks knew that racism was wrong well before our magic enlightenment. It was socially acceptable though. So that just made it easier to be a dick. I think the mods are just trying to make sure that it doesn't become socially acceptable here.
great post...

i lived through the change from socially acceptable to not, in most circles...

it was a wild time filled with desperation and promise all at the same time...

i was almost a pariah in junior high school because i had so many black friends and wasn't bashful about it, but i didn't care...

friends are friends, regardless of race or other circumstances...

it just took some people longer to figure it out...

and some still haven't...
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:34 AM   #380
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An adult male that refers to other males as "bitch" on a regular basis is at the bottom rung of the societal ladder.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:35 AM   #381
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This thread is ridiculous. The entire idea that people need guidance on how to act boggles my mind. Is there an epidemic of people being called "cracker" around here that I'm not aware of? With the massive black involvement in this forum, I'm sure there is and I just missed it.

There's a select group of people here, and everyone knows who they are, that are consistently racist. It doesn't bother me much, because I see their names and just skip the post. That doesn't make it acceptable.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:39 AM   #382
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:43 AM   #383
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Treading lightly these days huh bitch?
Holy Frijole! Look at the greaseball that thinks anything is different today than it was last week or last year.
You are still the same dead-end loser you ever were; don't let a few limp wristed sally-boys on an internet BB get you to thinking you are anything more.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:45 AM   #384
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Here's the pedophile rule in a nutshell. If you're hanging out with your friends and they're okay with being called pedophile or child molester down at the bar, then have at it. If you're not friendly with somebody on here and in the course of your disagreement you decide that calling them a pedophile strengthens your position then you will probably be banned for a while if that post is reported. This little site we have here isn't all that difficult. Most reasonable people are able to survive without even looking at the rules. It's just common sense. If you can't say it standing on top of a table in a crowded bar without fear for your safety then don't say it here.
I was warned and my post was quoted by a mod for speaking of pedophilia in the middle of an argument with Dane after he had broached the subject of sex with minors including my own daughter, but as far as I know he received no warning and he had none of his posts quoted. I didn't call him a pedophile so it doesn't fit into that rule. Does Dane have a special treatment clause in his membership agreement? Do moderators have a duty to evaluate both sides of a dispute or should we just expect them to swoop in on a reported post and pass judgment without bothering to understand the context and without weighing it against a defense from the accused poster?

People tell other people to die in an aids fire or drink antifreeze here. In the heat of arguments they call people ****s, pillowbiters or worse. It sounds good to say people just need to use common sense, but when you have a special rule for calling someone a pedophile that doesn't match up with rules about other forms of namecalling, it really leaves the realm of common sense.

And what happens if we really believe a guy might be a pedophile? Dane's weird reaction to that subject makes me wonder if there's not some fire creating all that smoke. Like maybe he's been accused in the past or something (pure speculation). Obviously I don't know him so I don't have any idea other than the really weird vibe so I'm not making an accusation. But I still wouldn't let him hang around my kids.
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Here's the pedophile rule in a nutshell. If you're hanging out with your friends and they're okay with being called pedophile or child molester down at the bar, then have at it. If you're not friendly with somebody on here and in the course of your disagreement you decide that calling them a pedophile strengthens your position then you will probably be banned for a while if that post is reported. This little site we have here isn't all that difficult. Most reasonable people are able to survive without even looking at the rules. It's just common sense. If you can't say it standing on top of a table in a crowded bar without fear for your safety then don't say it here.


I hope I never go into a bar unarmed where it is allowable to say 20% of the stuff posted on this board.
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:57 AM   #386
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I hope I never go into a bar unarmed where it is allowable to say 20% of the stuff posted on this board.
Yeah it's pretty unrealistic to think the same rules apply on the intertubes and in real life.
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IMO...power trips and double standards are an interesting study of our humanity.

Outstanding to see it on display for our analysis.

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I was warned and my post was quoted by a mod for speaking of pedophilia in the middle of an argument with Dane after he had broached the subject of sex with minors including my own daughter, but as far as I know he received no warning and he had none of his posts quoted. I didn't call him a pedophile so it doesn't fit into that rule. Does Dane have a special treatment clause in his membership agreement? Do moderators have a duty to evaluate both sides of a dispute or should we just expect them to swoop in on a reported post and pass judgment without bothering to understand the context and without weighing it against a defense from the accused poster?

People tell other people to die in an aids fire or drink antifreeze here. In the heat of arguments they call people ****s, pillowbiters or worse. It sounds good to say people just need to use common sense, but when you have a special rule for calling someone a pedophile that doesn't match up with rules about other forms of namecalling, it really leaves the realm of common sense.

And what happens if we really believe a guy might be a pedophile? Dane's weird reaction to that subject makes me wonder if there's not some fire creating all that smoke. Like maybe he's been accused in the past or something (pure speculation). Obviously I don't know him so I don't have any idea other than the really weird vibe so I'm not making an accusation. But I still wouldn't let him hang around my kids.

Damn, that guy did that shit to you too?
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Here's the pedophile rule in a nutshell. If you're hanging out with your friends and they're okay with being called pedophile or child molester down at the bar, then have at it. If you're not friendly with somebody on here and in the course of your disagreement you decide that calling them a pedophile strengthens your position then you will probably be banned for a while if that post is reported. This little site we have here isn't all that difficult. Most reasonable people are able to survive without even looking at the rules. It's just common sense. If you can't say it standing on top of a table in a crowded bar without fear for your safety then don't say it here.
That's an amazing rule there when people can talk that shit about 14 yr old girls and you can't call them what you think they are. others can wish kids get raped by 400lb men, others can call children with learning disabilities retards but if you cross that line and call someone a ped after they just started talking about screwing your 14 yr old, you ass is outta here.


Sounds about right...
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That's an amazing rule there when people can talk that shit about 14 yr old girls and you can't call them what you think they are. others can wish kids get raped by 400lb men, others can call children with learning disabilities retards but if you cross that line and call someone a ped after they just started talking about screwing your 14 yr old, you ass is outta here.


Sounds about right...
Yep. In the interest of full disclosure I'd like to see the names of all who report posts for racist content, and the posts in question, made public. Let's see what is flying and what is not.
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