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BREAKING: The president knew the truth about Benghazi

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BREAKING: The president knew the truth about Benghazi

By Jennifer Rubin, Published: NOVEMBER 16, 5:18 PM ET


In a blockbuster report, John Solomon, the former Associated Press and Post reporter, has ferreted out the president’s daily brief that informed him within 72 hours of the Sept. 11 attack that the Benghazi attack was a jihadist operation.

Citing officials directly familiar with the information, Solomon writes in the Washington Guardian that Obama and other administration officials were told that “that the attack was likely carried out by local militia and other armed extremists sympathetic to al-Qaida in the region.”

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The details from the CIA and Pentagon assessments of the killing of Ambassador Chris [Stevens] were far more specific, more detailed and more current than the unclassified talking points that UN Ambassador Susan Rice and other officials used five days after the attack to suggest to Americans that an unruly mob angry over an anti-Islamic video was to blame, officials said.

Most of the details affirming al-Qaida links were edited or excluded from the unclassified talking points used by Rice in appearances on news programs the weekend after the attack, officials confirmed Friday. Multiple agencies were involved in excising information, doing so because it revealed sources and methods, dealt with classified intercepts or involved information that was not yet fully confirmed, the officials said.

Solomon cautions that there were bits of evidence pointing to a spontaneous attack but, as Eli Lake of the Daily Beast and others have reported, he writes: “Among the early evidence cited in the briefings to the president and other senior officials were intercepts showing some of the participants were known members or supporters of Ansar al-Sharia — the al-Qaida-sympathizing militia in Libya — and the AQIM, which is a direct affiliate of al-Qaida in northern Africa, the officials said.”

How could the president and his senior staff then have allowed (or rather, sent) Rice to go out to tell an entirely different tale to the American people on Sept. 16 on five TV shows?

This report indicates that the president certainly knew that Benghazi wasn’t a rogue movie review gone bad. He had information that plainly spelled out what was later confirmed by additional intelligence. If this information was too confidential to share with the public, at the very least the president and others should not have mislead voters.

This is a full-blown scandal, and in light of this information, the press corps’s slothful indifference to uncovering the truth at Wednesday’s news conference with Obama is all the more shocking. It is time for the president to come clean. The scandal has now enveloped the Oval Office and will define his second term, if not resolved satisfactorily.

The irony of this is that Rice may well have been used as a patsy, unaware that she was sent out to spin a misleading tale. My colleague Dana Milbank recounts Rice’s long-standing inability to get along with others and to be circumspect in her pronouncements:

It’s true that, in her much-criticized TV performance, she was reciting talking points given to her by the intelligence agencies. But that’s the trouble. Rice stuck with her points even though they had been contradicted by the president of the Libyan National Assembly, who, on CBS’s ‘Face the Nation’ just before Rice, said there was “no doubt” that the attack on Americans in Benghazi “was preplanned.” Rice rebutted the Libyan official, arguing — falsely, it turned out — that there was no evidence of such planning. . . . Obama can do better at State than Susan Rice.

Frankly the same could be said of many national security positions at this point. The American people made their choice in November on the president, but it now appears they were duped regarding the real facts concerning Benghazi. What are we going to do about that?
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:14 PM   #211
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You clearly do not know what you are talking about.

Let me educate you here....

Pipeline crane mats > Used for pipeline jobs, the contracts my customer has is the Keystone Pipeline. The construction has came to a halt this year to the failure of the Obama administration to release the authority to continue to build it.

Firewood accounts > These accounts are generated to the white collar workers in the bigger cities, not smaller rural towns. With the economy bad or unstable right now, our customer (Kroger) has told that the expected sales will be smaller than previously thought.

We were geared up for a BIG year this year after picking up 4 more distribution centers, but the election came and went, people now are skeptical of the economy.
Firewood interested me. I have tried to give away firewood. But its like Tomatoes. I can grow tomatoes till who laid the chunk. And everyone loves a garden grown fresh tomato. Its just the want you to grow, pick and deliver or they are not so much into them. Same with firewood. I have a bunch of trees...hedge, hickory, oak, ash. And I end up cutting them down and pushing them into piles and burning them cause I cant use that much and people who I offer it to want it cut, split, delivered, and stacked...or never mind.
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Old 11-19-2012, 02:52 PM   #212
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Firewood interested me. I have tried to give away firewood. But its like Tomatoes. I can grow tomatoes till who laid the chunk. And everyone loves a garden grown fresh tomato. Its just the want you to grow, pick and deliver or they are not so much into them. Same with firewood. I have a bunch of trees...hedge, hickory, oak, ash. And I end up cutting them down and pushing them into piles and burning them cause I cant use that much and people who I offer it to want it cut, split, delivered, and stacked...or never mind.
Sounds like you're surrounded by worthless people.
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:00 PM   #213
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I have tried to give away firewood. But its like Tomatoes. I can grow tomatoes till who laid the chunk. And everyone loves a garden grown fresh tomato. Its just the want you to grow, pick and deliver or they are not so much into them.
Good I'll be in touch with you then. I keep getting that fungus on tomatoes when I grew 'em!
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:02 PM   #214
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Roy, don't know where your post is in the Keystone Pipeline but I think you should reconsider.
There's even Tea Partiers that opposed to it because it relies on eminent domain abuse. The oil from it goes overseas not to Americans. It does nothing for Americans. It's nothing but a another globalist-self interest deal.


I have details on this somewhere in the forum from months ago. Type it in the search with my name. It should come up.
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:26 PM   #215
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Roy, don't know where your post is in the Keystone Pipeline but I think you should reconsider.
There's even Tea Partiers that opposed to it because it relies on eminent domain abuse. The oil from it goes overseas not to Americans. It does nothing for Americans. It's nothing but a another globalist-self interest deal.
I have details on this somewhere in the forum from months ago. Type it in the search with my name. It should come up.
Good Lord, take a trip to the moon.

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All the oil overseas ?

All the oil was projected to be used here until all the overseas countries we buy oil from threw a fit because it would reduce how much oil we buy from them. All of the opposition to the oil sands actually comes from foreign countries such as Nigeria, Venezuela, and Saudi Arabia, all of whom supply oil to the United States setting off all of the environmentalist. They are backed by them and for the love of God, do not use the Cornell ILR Global Labor Institute study, a liberal leaning study group that back who ,environmentalist! It wasn't until the foreign countries such as Nigeria, Venezuela, and Saudi Arabia outcry to America and the environmentalist, claiming it will all go to the Asian markets. TransCanada had said that development of oil sands will expand regardless of whether the crude oil is exported to the United States or alternatively to Asian markets through the Enbridge Northern Gateway Pipelines or the Kinder Morgan's Trans-Mountain line. Meaning if we do not want the oil, Asian markets do and it will go out through British Columbia. A lot of money has been spent so far into building this pipeline over the last 2 years. For the record,when completed, the Keystone XL will add 510,000 barrels per day increasing the total capacity up to 1.1 million barrels of oil per day to the United States of America ....... Not the Asian markets as the environmentalist claims that is backed the opposition of Nigeria, Venezuela, and Saudi Arabia.

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It does nothing for Americans?
Nothing ? What is job creation t you ?Do you not know that a large part of this is already done ? Hundred of thousand of jobs have been made to the public over the last few years and especially now when we need more of those jobs. Plus the jobs at the refineries will increase, bringing more jobs to Americans. But let's kill the jobs because the interest of countries like Nigeria, Venezuela, and Saudi Arabia.

Yeah, let's kill jobs because other foreign countries are fearful we will buy less oil from them.
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Old 11-19-2012, 04:29 PM   #216
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Good Lord, take a trip to the moon.
That's not an argument.

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All the oil was projected to be used here until all the overseas countries we buy oil from threw a fit because it would reduce how much oil we buy from them. All of the opposition to the oil sands actually comes from foreign countries such as Nigeria, Venezuela, and Saudi Arabia, all of whom supply oil to the United States setting off all of the environmentalist. They are backed by them and for the love of God, do not use the Cornell ILR Global Labor Institute study, a liberal leaning study group that back who ,environmentalist! It wasn't until the foreign countries such as Nigeria, Venezuela, and Saudi Arabia outcry to America and the environmentalist, claiming it will all go to the Asian markets. TransCanada had said that development of oil sands will expand regardless of whether the crude oil is exported to the United States or alternatively to Asian markets through the Enbridge Northern Gateway Pipelines or the Kinder Morgan's Trans-Mountain line. Meaning if we do not want the oil, Asian markets do and it will go out through British Columbia. A lot of money has been spent so far into building this pipeline over the last 2 years. For the record,when completed, the Keystone XL will add 510,000 barrels per day increasing the total capacity up to 1.1 million barrels of oil per day to the United States of America ....... Not the Asian markets as the environmentalist claims that is backed the opposition of Nigeria, Venezuela, and Saudi Arabia.

Nothing ? What is job creation t you ?Do you not know that a large part of this is already done ? Hundred of thousand of jobs have been made to the public over the last few years and especially now when we need more of those jobs. Plus the jobs at the refineries will increase, bringing more jobs to Americans. But let's kill the jobs because the interest of countries like Nigeria, Venezuela, and Saudi Arabia.

Yeah, let's kill jobs because other foreign countries are fearful we will buy less oil from them.
Nope. Plus you have not addressed eminent domain abuse.

See here....including the rest of the posts after it in the thread.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...06&postcount=8

Oh and the private sector should create jobs, but this takes property for a private corporation from Canada.
I don't support abuse of property rights....just in case you didn't know.
This is the classic crony capitalist/mercantilist set-up.
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Another Obama lie with his fake "180 degree flip flop" on Keystone

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Sounds like you're surrounded by worthless people.
I think you will find a good number are worthless. And a lot are lazy. Cutting firewood isnt like opening a beer. Half the population doesn't contribute shit so doing work for free wood is beneath them.
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I think you will find a good number are worthless. And a lot are lazy. Cutting firewood isnt like opening a beer. Half the population doesn't contribute shit so doing work for free wood is beneath them.
Why cut wood just demand someone provides it for you~
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I think you will find a good number are worthless. And a lot are lazy. Cutting firewood isnt like opening a beer. Half the population doesn't contribute shit so doing work for free wood is beneath them.
I thought country folk were more hardy than that.
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Country folk have firewood. Its city folk who i have offered to. Townies tend to be soft and would rater pay for something than work and get it free.
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That's not an argument.



Nope. Plus you have not addressed eminent domain abuse.

See here....including the rest of the posts after it in the thread.

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Oh and the private sector should create jobs, but this takes property for a private corporation from Canada.
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This is the classic crony capitalist/mercantilist set-up.
You just don't get it, do ya. The oil flowing to Patoka,IL & Texas refineries are refining that oil for American consumption. Why would they want to build a pipeline that cost millions of dollars to refine it and ship it to Asia at a higher cost of shipping when they can go straight west to British Columbia,refine it and ship it cheaper ?
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I find it amazing we can start a topic and before long we have multiple topics open in one thread.

Are we here at CP all that good or severely inattentive with staying on topic?
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Country folk have firewood. Its city folk who i have offered to. Townies tend to be soft and would rater pay for something than work and get it free.
Townies need firewood? for what?
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