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The_Grand_Illusion · 11-17-2012, 01:58 PM

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ri...5445_blog.html

BREAKING: The president knew the truth about Benghazi

By Jennifer Rubin, Published: NOVEMBER 16, 5:18 PM ET

In a blockbuster report, John Solomon, the former Associated Press and Post reporter, has ferreted out the president’s daily brief that informed him within 72 hours of the Sept. 11 attack that the Benghazi attack was a jihadist operation.

Citing officials directly familiar with the information, Solomon writes in the Washington Guardian that Obama and other administration officials were told that “that the attack was likely carried out by local militia and other armed extremists sympathetic to al-Qaida in the region.”

He adds:

The details from the CIA and Pentagon assessments of the killing of Ambassador Chris [Stevens] were far more specific, more detailed and more current than the unclassified talking points that UN Ambassador Susan Rice and other officials used five days after the attack to suggest to Americans that an unruly mob angry over an anti-Islamic video was to blame, officials said.

Most of the details affirming al-Qaida links were edited or excluded from the unclassified talking points used by Rice in appearances on news programs the weekend after the attack, officials confirmed Friday. Multiple agencies were involved in excising information, doing so because it revealed sources and methods, dealt with classified intercepts or involved information that was not yet fully confirmed, the officials said.

Solomon cautions that there were bits of evidence pointing to a spontaneous attack but, as Eli Lake of the Daily Beast and others have reported, he writes: “Among the early evidence cited in the briefings to the president and other senior officials were intercepts showing some of the participants were known members or supporters of Ansar al-Sharia — the al-Qaida-sympathizing militia in Libya — and the AQIM, which is a direct affiliate of al-Qaida in northern Africa, the officials said.”

How could the president and his senior staff then have allowed (or rather, sent) Rice to go out to tell an entirely different tale to the American people on Sept. 16 on five TV shows?

This report indicates that the president certainly knew that Benghazi wasn’t a rogue movie review gone bad. He had information that plainly spelled out what was later confirmed by additional intelligence. If this information was too confidential to share with the public, at the very least the president and others should not have mislead voters.

This is a full-blown scandal, and in light of this information, the press corps’s slothful indifference to uncovering the truth at Wednesday’s news conference with Obama is all the more shocking. It is time for the president to come clean. The scandal has now enveloped the Oval Office and will define his second term, if not resolved satisfactorily.

The irony of this is that Rice may well have been used as a patsy, unaware that she was sent out to spin a misleading tale. My colleague Dana Milbank recounts Rice’s long-standing inability to get along with others and to be circumspect in her pronouncements:

It’s true that, in her much-criticized TV performance, she was reciting talking points given to her by the intelligence agencies. But that’s the trouble. Rice stuck with her points even though they had been contradicted by the president of the Libyan National Assembly, who, on CBS’s ‘Face the Nation’ just before Rice, said there was “no doubt” that the attack on Americans in Benghazi “was preplanned.” Rice rebutted the Libyan official, arguing — falsely, it turned out — that there was no evidence of such planning. . . . Obama can do better at State than Susan Rice.

Frankly the same could be said of many national security positions at this point. The American people made their choice in November on the president, but it now appears they were duped regarding the real facts concerning Benghazi. What are we going to do about that?

ROYC75 · 11-18-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

For anyone new to this thread TGI's doesn't have the business chops to get by and Roy can't read.

You know Zach, you really know no limits to being a jerk. You are undoubtedly the biggest jerk I have ever met, spoken to or chatted with. You take the cake buckaroo.

You come on here acting so perfect yet you have no balls to speak or answer the truth to any question anybody imposes on you. You expect answers from everybody when you ask yet you do a wonderful rendition of Slick Willie. I have to ask, is Slick Willie your daddy ? Never mind, you won't answer.

It appears your only purpose id to find satisfaction or validation from other posters comments to solidify your own personal agenda, Lord only knows what that may be.

I may be wrong here, I would almost bet that a poll asking CP members here on who is the biggest jerk or arrogant ass is, you would be odds on favorite to win.

Brock · 11-18-2012, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

WOW, just WOW.

Sorry I answered a question for TGI, I put my nose into your question and you go off like some on PMS.

It's OK, it only last a few days, you'll be able to go back to your street corner and work again soon.

You didn't answer a question that I asked TGI or anybody. You answered a question I did not ask. So very, very stupid.

The_Grand_Illusion · 11-18-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach|

Don't get mad at me because you can't run a good business and are too embarrassed to actually tell us about it. It isn't the fault of Brock or Zach!

That's funny I point out how statism is hurting this country and in the real world, it is, you take it personal. It's not my fault what you believe in so much is hurting this country. It's that liberal media cocoon you live in has also done much damage.

TGI

Brock · 11-18-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Grand_Illusion

I answered Brock's question but it was not the answer he wanted to hear. I can explain it to him but I cannot understand it for him too.

TGI

The question was how did "statism" ruin your business if I am reading you correctly? I'm not looking for quotes from the conservative handbook, I'm looking for specifics. You haven't answered it yet.

ROYC75 · 11-18-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

You didn't answer a question that I asked TGI or anybody. You answered a question I did not ask. So very, very stupid.

Getting technical?

Are you and Zach now brothers ? Or sisters ?

Brock · 11-18-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

Getting technical?

Are you and Zach now brothers ? Or sisters ?

Technical? What's technical about understanding what you read? Doing business with you must be a hoot.

The_Grand_Illusion · 11-18-2012, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock

The question was how did "statism" ruin your business if I am reading you correctly? I'm not looking for quotes from the conservative handbook, I'm looking for specifics. You haven't answered it yet.

LOL, conservative handbook? LOL Go reread what I said over and over again until it sinks in, if it does ever. I'll give you a clue and I'm referring to this bad economy that you libs want to ignore. When your customers are struggling mightily with higher and higher prices in many places to the point it affects their spending, or losing their homes and businesses, or struggling to keep those going, of course it's going to hurt many businesses of all sizes. Much of this has been brought on because of price inflation, due to the mass printing of our dollar and the debt we have going trying to keep the liberal utopia of larger and larger, more and more controlling government. Even though we now have a majority of Americans who voted this way, it is not sustainable and you are going to see more and more businesses close and layoffs. The statist liberal big government for all giveaway dream is just that, a dream. Too many in this country have no clue how real business works. That's the fault of our education system and of course the liberal culture.

TGI

ROYC75 · 11-18-2012, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock

You didn't answer a question that I asked TGI or anybody. You answered a question I did not ask. So very, very stupid.

So what, I went ahead and answered your Satanism comment ...

Quote:

My question was not whether or not we're on the path to statism and have the massive debt to prove it.

.

No it wasn't a question of whether or not .... but I went ahead and answered through the eyes of most Christians.

If you found that offensive or just a reason to bitch, deal with it.

Next time I'll stay out of your comments and questions. Can you do the same?

|Zach| · 11-18-2012, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Grand_Illusion

That's funny I point out how statism is hurting this country and in the real world, it is, you take it personal. It's not my fault what you believe in so much is hurting this country. It's that liberal media cocoon you live in has also done much damage.

TGI

The damage sounds all on your end. You can't project damage on to me sir.

|Zach| · 11-18-2012, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75

You know Zach, you really know no limits to being a jerk. You are undoubtedly the biggest jerk I have ever met, spoken to or chatted with. You take the cake buckaroo.

You come on here acting so perfect yet you have no balls to speak or answer the truth to any question anybody imposes on you. You expect answers from everybody when you ask yet you do a wonderful rendition of Slick Willie. I have to ask, is Slick Willie your daddy ? Never mind, you won't answer.

It appears your only purpose id to find satisfaction or validation from other posters comments to solidify your own personal agenda, Lord only knows what that may be.

I may be wrong here, I would almost bet that a poll asking CP members here on who is the biggest jerk or arrogant ass is, you would be odds on favorite to win.

You're emotional right now. Which is fine...you have trouble reading and comprehending things and it causes frustration. I guess the only thing you have to do now is....

Create the poll!

**RNR** · 11-18-2012, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Grand_Illusion

That's funny I point out how statism is hurting this country and in the real world, it is, you take it personal. It's not my fault what you believe in so much is hurting this country. It's that liberal media cocoon you live in has also done much damage.

TGI

I don't have a dog in this fight, but Zach owns his own business or did at one time~

ROYC75 · 11-18-2012, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach|

You're emotional right now. Which is fine...you have trouble reading and comprehending things and it causes frustration. I guess the only thing you have to do now is....

Create the poll!

I am not, too damned old for that immature crap.

What is obvious, you can not or will not answer the questions as asked.

Brock · 11-18-2012, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75

So what, I went ahead and answered your Satanism comment ....

No it wasn't a question of whether or not .... but I went ahead and answered through the eyes of most Christians.

If you found that offensive or just a reason to bitch, deal with it.

Next time I'll stay out of your comments and questions. Can you do the same?

The **** does christianity have to do with anything? Oh, Jesus. I just realized you think I said "Satanism' instead of "statism".

Oh sweet lord.

LOL

|Zach| · 11-18-2012, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

I don't have a dog in this fight, but Zach owns his own business or did at one time~

Does currently. Apparently the government was part of his business failing but when asked about that his responses are (with all due respect Stevie) Stevie like where they only actually make sense to him. No specifics just vague horseshit.

**RNR** · 11-18-2012, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach|

Does currently. Apparently the government was part of his business failing but when asked about that his responses are (with all due respect Stevie) Stevie like where they only actually make sense to him. No specifics just vague horseshit.

How is business btw? I am still having fun with my camera. Heck the company asks me to shoot their events...uh for free

I guess I suck at the business part of it~

11-17-2012, 01:58 PM
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