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Old 11-17-2012, 01:58 PM  
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BREAKING: The president knew the truth about Benghazi

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ri...5445_blog.html


BREAKING: The president knew the truth about Benghazi

By Jennifer Rubin, Published: NOVEMBER 16, 5:18 PM ET


In a blockbuster report, John Solomon, the former Associated Press and Post reporter, has ferreted out the president’s daily brief that informed him within 72 hours of the Sept. 11 attack that the Benghazi attack was a jihadist operation.

Citing officials directly familiar with the information, Solomon writes in the Washington Guardian that Obama and other administration officials were told that “that the attack was likely carried out by local militia and other armed extremists sympathetic to al-Qaida in the region.”

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The details from the CIA and Pentagon assessments of the killing of Ambassador Chris [Stevens] were far more specific, more detailed and more current than the unclassified talking points that UN Ambassador Susan Rice and other officials used five days after the attack to suggest to Americans that an unruly mob angry over an anti-Islamic video was to blame, officials said.

Most of the details affirming al-Qaida links were edited or excluded from the unclassified talking points used by Rice in appearances on news programs the weekend after the attack, officials confirmed Friday. Multiple agencies were involved in excising information, doing so because it revealed sources and methods, dealt with classified intercepts or involved information that was not yet fully confirmed, the officials said.

Solomon cautions that there were bits of evidence pointing to a spontaneous attack but, as Eli Lake of the Daily Beast and others have reported, he writes: “Among the early evidence cited in the briefings to the president and other senior officials were intercepts showing some of the participants were known members or supporters of Ansar al-Sharia — the al-Qaida-sympathizing militia in Libya — and the AQIM, which is a direct affiliate of al-Qaida in northern Africa, the officials said.”

How could the president and his senior staff then have allowed (or rather, sent) Rice to go out to tell an entirely different tale to the American people on Sept. 16 on five TV shows?

This report indicates that the president certainly knew that Benghazi wasn’t a rogue movie review gone bad. He had information that plainly spelled out what was later confirmed by additional intelligence. If this information was too confidential to share with the public, at the very least the president and others should not have mislead voters.

This is a full-blown scandal, and in light of this information, the press corps’s slothful indifference to uncovering the truth at Wednesday’s news conference with Obama is all the more shocking. It is time for the president to come clean. The scandal has now enveloped the Oval Office and will define his second term, if not resolved satisfactorily.

The irony of this is that Rice may well have been used as a patsy, unaware that she was sent out to spin a misleading tale. My colleague Dana Milbank recounts Rice’s long-standing inability to get along with others and to be circumspect in her pronouncements:

It’s true that, in her much-criticized TV performance, she was reciting talking points given to her by the intelligence agencies. But that’s the trouble. Rice stuck with her points even though they had been contradicted by the president of the Libyan National Assembly, who, on CBS’s ‘Face the Nation’ just before Rice, said there was “no doubt” that the attack on Americans in Benghazi “was preplanned.” Rice rebutted the Libyan official, arguing — falsely, it turned out — that there was no evidence of such planning. . . . Obama can do better at State than Susan Rice.

Frankly the same could be said of many national security positions at this point. The American people made their choice in November on the president, but it now appears they were duped regarding the real facts concerning Benghazi. What are we going to do about that?
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:30 PM   #106
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Nope, didn't see it and too lazy to go through this whole thread to find it.

But unlike Zach, I can answer a question honestly and not spin out of it. My answers may not be the views of others, but it's the way I see it, right or wrong to others.

I don't lie and deflect as he does.
I've got the world on a string.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:31 PM   #107
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There was a report out shortly after the attacks that live feeds were going to the State Department and the White House. They knew what was happening as it happened.

At least with Nixon he was honorable enough to resign when he was found to be lying. Where is the honor with this president?
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:32 PM   #108
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Nope, didn't see it and too lazy to go through this whole thread to find it.

But unlike Zach, I can answer a question honestly and not spin out of it. My answers may not be the views of others, but it's the way I see it, right or wrong to others.

I don't lie and deflect as he does.
It was like 5 posts down. Seriously, is there something wrong with you that I'm not aware of?
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:34 PM   #109
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It was like 5 posts down. Seriously, is there something wrong with you that I'm not aware of?
Would it please you if I went back and read it?
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:36 PM   #110
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Would it please you if I went back and read it?
It really doesn't matter. It doesn't appear you'd understand it if you did.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:36 PM   #111
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Would it please you if I went back and read it?
It didn't take you long to get you talking about things you didn't understand.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:37 PM   #112
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How did "statism" take away your business, if I'm reading what you're saying correctly?
If it's this, I can not answer his question.

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I re-read what you said and you didn't answer my question. My question was not whether or not we're on the path to statism and have the massive debt to prove it.
I gave my opinion.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:39 PM   #113
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If it's this, I can not answer his question.



I gave my opinion.
Good grief.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:46 PM   #114
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Good grief.
Good Grief what, just come out and ask it then instead of dancing around it.

If I am missing a question, have the balls to ask it then. We know Zack can't answer it, while we are at it, let's ask him too. See which one of us will answer honestly.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:50 PM   #115
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Good Grief what, just come out and ask it then instead of dancing around it.

If I am missing a question, have the balls to ask it then. We know Zack can't answer it, while we are at it, let's ask him too. See which one of us will answer honestly.
This little subtree of the overall discussion is a result of your inability to read, Roy. I didn't ask you any questions, that's why I thanked you for answering a question I didn't ask. Speaking of spinning, you are one dizzy broad.
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:58 PM   #116
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This little subtree of the overall discussion is a result of your inability to read, Roy. I didn't ask you any questions, that's why I thanked you for answering a question I didn't ask. Speaking of spinning, you are one dizzy broad.
WOW, just WOW.

Sorry I answered a question for TGI, I put my nose into your question and you go off like some on PMS.

It's OK, it only last a few days, you'll be able to go back to your street corner and work again soon.
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Old 11-18-2012, 05:29 PM   #117
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WOW, just WOW.

Sorry I answered a question for TGI, I put my nose into your question and you go off like some on PMS.

It's OK, it only last a few days, you'll be able to go back to your street corner and work again soon.
I answered Brock's question but it was not the answer he wanted to hear. I can explain it to him but I cannot understand it for him too.

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Old 11-18-2012, 05:34 PM   #118
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For anyone new to this thread TGI's doesn't have the business chops to get by and Roy can't read.
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For anyone new to this thread TGI's doesn't have the business chops to get by and Roy can't read.
You really have no clue what I've been through you pompous ass!

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You really have no clue what I've been through you pompous ass!

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Don't get mad at me because you can't run a good business and are too embarrassed to actually tell us about it. It isn't the fault of Brock or Zach!
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