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Old 11-13-2012, 10:54 PM  
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November 29: The UN will vote to recognize Palestine as a "state."

Currently, Palestine is a non-member observer entity in the UN.

The Palestinians have pressed forth to introduce a measure to upgrade them in the UN's eyes to a non-member observer state.

While being upgraded from non-member observer entity to non-member observer state doesn't sound like much, it does provide Palestine an opportunity to actually contribute and perform within the UN.

Most damning, of course, is that it would tell Israel and the United States that their treatment of Palestine is tantamount to suppression of what should be a legitimate, free country. An act bordering on apartheid, which the ICC (run by the UN, which could soon include Palestine) as "inhuman acts committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one racial group of persons over any other racial group of persons and systematically oppressing them." I don't regard that as a possibility.

But essentially, this has the ability to be a game changer in favor of two-state negotiations in favor of the Palestinian people, as opposed to the Likud/GOP alliance, which does not want any such two-state solution. All the facts on the ground right now favor Israel, as they expand their land, take more of the Palestinian land, and pretend with each passing year that the '67 borders with agreed-upon land swaps is some crime against Israel's humanity.

The only real arrow in Palestine's quiver is international opinion. And this particular vote in the UN cannot be unilaterally shot down by the United States, so it is sure to be voted on, and sure to be passed by roughly 75% of the UN.

As such, the United States and Israel are, understandably, freaking the **** out. The US is threatening to withdraw funding for much of the UN. Israel is threatening to discard the Oslo Accord, which allowed Palestine self-governance. This could potentially mean apartheid in everything but name.

So things are going to get really, really fascinating.

I ultimately think that Israel and the US' bark is worse than their bite. Obama prides himself on effective diplomacy which cannot happen if he's going to war with the UN. Israel's Netanyahu is far less concerned with international opinion, but doesn't want Israel to end up on the wrong side of the distinction between internationally frowned-upon to internationally despised. Though he may be heading that way anyway.

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Palestinians Defy Obama With UN ‘Observer State’ Bid
By Flavia Krause-Jackson
on November 08, 2012

Palestinians defied newly re-elected U.S. President Barack Obama by pushing ahead with a second statehood bid at the United Nations that will raise their profile at the world body and highlight the stagnation of the Mideast peace process.

The Palestinian Authority yesterday circulated a resolution to put the Palestine Liberation Organization on a par with the Holy See, according to a draft that will be put to a vote in the UN’s 193-member General Assembly, where the initiative has enough support to pass and the U.S. lacks veto power.

The latest steps by the Palestinians present Obama with his first foreign-policy challenge three days after he won a second term. A year ago, the Palestinians abandoned an attempt to be recognized as a full member state through the Security Council after Obama indicated the U.S. would use its veto there.

The PLO, which currently is an observer “entity,” is seeking a nonmember “observer state status,” according to the draft obtained by Bloomberg News.

By resurrecting the statehood issue in the General Assembly, the Palestinian leadership is trying to force the White House to pay attention to a moribund Palestinian-Israeli peace process that has dropped off the list of foreign-policy priorities for Obama.

In doing so, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas is jeopardizing relations with Obama, as well as about $500 million in U.S. economic and security aid that members of Congress have threatened to cut if Palestinians proceed at the UN.

Issue Fades

The Palestinians have seen their cause fall into relative obscurity internationally since formal peace talks with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government were frozen two years ago.

Peace talks stumbled over the issue of Jewish settlements in the West Bank, which Israel captured from Jordan in the 1967 Six-Day War. Abbas said he wouldn’t return to negotiations unless Israel froze all settlement construction in the West Bank and east Jerusalem. Netanyahu has refused to renew a 10-month freeze on construction that expired in 2010.

Abbas will present the resolution in person in New York, according to a UN official speaking on condition of anonymity. A vote is expected to take place by the end of the month, the official said.

Still, the move isn’t without risks.

When the Palestinian Authority was accepted last year into the UN cultural agency UNESCO, best known for its designation of “world heritage” sites, the U.S. response was to cut off funding that provides almost a quarter of the agency’s budget.

The U.S. has said that American law would require similar cutoffs for any UN agency that grants the Palestinians the same status as member states.

International Criminal Court

The upgrade may open the door for Palestinians to join other UN agencies, including the International Criminal Court, where they could ask for Israel to be tried for war crimes.

“Israel’s main worry is the ICC,” Palestinian chief negotiator Saeb Erakat said in an Oct. 24 interview. “They don’t want me to have a sword on their neck.”

The initiative could also jeopardize international aid that accounts for about 14 percent of the Palestinians’ gross domestic product and invite retaliatory measures from Israel.

As for the U.S., the administration’s position hasn’t wavered. The U.S. ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice, has said repeatedly that “unilateral actions,” such as the upgrade of the Palestinians’ UN status, would only derail efforts to restart direct peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians.
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:10 PM   #106
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Interesting blog from a guy on the front line. By the time our media reports anything the rality of it is scrubbed and a spin put in place

http://muqata.blogspot.com/?m=0

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Old 11-17-2012, 08:44 PM   #107
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Unprovoked?

I'm no fan of Hamas, but to call these attacks unprovoked is blindness.
So, do you disagree with this statement?

“The rocket attacks by Hamas and other factions in Gaza which began this current crisis are totally unacceptable for any government and must stop,



What part of these terrorist attacks are not a rinse and repeat?
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:45 PM   #108
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Hamas is smart.. they shield themselves with civilians.
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:15 PM   #109
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Unprovoked?

I'm no fan of Hamas, but to call these attacks unprovoked is blindness.
bullshit

there are, on average 3 rocket attacks per day (12000 rockets over last decade or so)

200 rockets were launched BEFORE Israel retaliated...(just in this last barrage over the last week or so...for 3 DAYS Israel did nothing but ask nicely for them to stop)

Come on man...

Why dont you admit the main 'provocation' is that Hamas is UNWILLING to acknowledge Israel's existance, and has 'no peace, no negotiations PERIOD' as mandates.

With the Hamas victory over Fatah (civil war in 06/07), and now Hamas' core group (the Muslim Brotherhood) coming in to so much power, they feel emboldened and now have a plentiful supply of longer range rockets.

Please at least be honest here.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:48 AM   #110
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bullshit

there are, on average 3 rocket attacks per day (12000 rockets over last decade or so)

200 rockets were launched BEFORE Israel retaliated...(just in this last barrage over the last week or so...for 3 DAYS Israel did nothing but ask nicely for them to stop)

Come on man...

Why dont you admit the main 'provocation' is that Hamas is UNWILLING to acknowledge Israel's existance, and has 'no peace, no negotiations PERIOD' as mandates.

With the Hamas victory over Fatah (civil war in 06/07), and now Hamas' core group (the Muslim Brotherhood) coming in to so much power, they feel emboldened and now have a plentiful supply of longer range rockets.

Please at least be honest here.


Palestians killing Palestians: In 2007, the terrorist group Hamas had a military coup d'etat in Gaza. Some 400-500 Fatah fighters, the core of the Palestinian Authority's military were killed in that battle.

While Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas is in control of the West Bank - home to most of the Palestinian population dominated by Fatah - Hamas is in control of Gaza strip.

On Wednesday Abbas reportedly reached out to president Hamas leader Kaled Meshaal to negotiate for a unity interim cabinet in hopes it will revive momentum for a Palestinian state at the UN.

If Abbas moves forward and is granted observer state status, Israel would nullify the Oslo Accords. Therefore, toppling president Abbas and dismantling the PLO and Palestinian Authority.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:55 AM   #111
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Hamas uses pictures of Syrian dead - And claims them as Palestinian dead





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The oldest trick in the book. While MSM is fooled again.
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Old 11-18-2012, 08:31 AM   #112
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Preemptive theft of land. Rejection of their right to exist as a state (and yes, I see the double standard there). Return violence that Palestinians see as unproportional responses.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:18 AM   #113
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"A Pause for Negotiations in the Israeli-Hamas Conflict is republished with permission of Stratfor."

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Old 11-18-2012, 09:31 AM   #114
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And how the heck can they complain about the responses, when they just keep doing it, over and over again, to further push Israel until they have no choice?

Here's a clue, that most people with even a little brain matter already know, don't start something if you wont like the response.

If they have complaints they should have accepted statehood, then complained and filed the grievance they had like so many other coutries have done. Many other countries have disputed territories, but what kind of people just reject everything because they would rather respond with violence on their own and take it all?

When a people would rather reject peace and choose the path of violence, then the path of statehood and freedom? They should never be taken seriously, instead wiped out by everyone in the world with higher values than strapping bombs on kids so they can go murder innocents, and who is sick and tired of their shit.

Amazing there are people who support that terrorist shit stain, let alone in their avatar.

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Old 11-18-2012, 09:36 AM   #115
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JERUSALEM (AP) — Israel's military says Gaza militants have fired another rocket at Tel Aviv, but it was intercepted by the country's 'Iron Dome' missile defense system.

Police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld says two rockets were fired Sunday. It was impossible to immediately reconcile the reports.

The latest conflict between Israel and Palestinians in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip has seen Israel's heartland brought under long-range Palestinian rocket fire for the first time.


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Old 11-18-2012, 09:42 AM   #116
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Considering that Israel chose to leave Gaza, I don't see one being relevant today.
So you've turned a blind eye to settlement expansion.

Well, we've all got our ways of coping with cognitive dissonance.

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Two is silly (as you more or less point out).
Not necessarily.

Israel doesn't need the Palestinians to recognize their existence for them to exist.

Palestine needs Israel to recognize their existence for them to actually exist.

That's the difference.

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Well, they are going up against a more powerful state. It's quite simple: don't attack or paln to attack Israel, and their won't be a response, proportional or otherwise.
Doesn't change the fact that the responses are legitimately viewed as disproportional.

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What exactly has Hamas done to show that they want peace with Israel?
Hamas doesn't want peace with Israel. A two-state solution means they end up out of power eventually.

A constant state of conflict is needed to keep them in power.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:43 AM   #117
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This is no convincing of Direckshun on this issue....in his view Hamas is completely justified in targeting and launching rockets at women and children.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:46 AM   #118
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bullshit

there are, on average 3 rocket attacks per day (12000 rockets over last decade or so)

200 rockets were launched BEFORE Israel retaliated...(just in this last barrage over the last week or so...for 3 DAYS Israel did nothing but ask nicely for them to stop)

Come on man...

Why dont you admit the main 'provocation' is that Hamas is UNWILLING to acknowledge Israel's existance, and has 'no peace, no negotiations PERIOD' as mandates.

With the Hamas victory over Fatah (civil war in 06/07), and now Hamas' core group (the Muslim Brotherhood) coming in to so much power, they feel emboldened and now have a plentiful supply of longer range rockets.

Please at least be honest here.
I'm not denying that Hamas is a horrible organization that exploits the fears of the Palestinian people to fuel their own power. Never have.

This current conflict is a mishmash'd result of fire that Hamas and the IDF have been trading for weeks.

With no conceivable peace process in motion, and the UN vote around the corner, it has escalated.

To disasterous results that will be felt, first and foremost, by Palestinian civilians.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:00 AM   #119
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So you've turned a blind eye to settlement expansion.

Well, we've all got our ways of coping with cognitive dissonance.
You are unaware that there are NO Israelis settlements in Gaza now?

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Not necessarily.

Israel doesn't need the Palestinians to recognize their existence for them to exist.

Palestine needs Israel to recognize their existence for them to actually exist.

That's the difference.
They both exist. Israel has offered peace. The "Palestinians" including Hamas have rejected it because they won't accept Israel's right to exist.

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Doesn't change the fact that the responses are legitimately viewed as disproportional.

Hamas doesn't want peace with Israel. A two-state solution means they end up out of power eventually.

A constant state of conflict is needed to keep them in power.
Yes, I know that Hamas and "the Palestinians" don't want peace with Israel.
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I'm not denying that Hamas is a horrible organization that exploits the fears of the Palestinian people to fuel their own power. Never have.

This current conflict is a mishmash'd result of fire that Hamas and the IDF have been trading for weeks.

With no conceivable peace process in motion, and the UN vote around the corner, it has escalated.

To disasterous results that will be felt, first and foremost, by Palestinian civilians.
Well, the Palestinian civilians shouldn't have voted in Hamas. They chose extremism and terrorists to be their leaders in Gaza.
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