|
![]() |
|
Molôn Labé
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: North Carolina
Casino cash: $20007
|
Texas to withdraw from the United States of America
Is this BS or what?
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...nment/BmdWCP8B Peacefully grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government. The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government's neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it's citizens' standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government. |
Posts: 21,374
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#271 | ||||||||||||||||
Has a particular set of skills
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $39727
![]() |
Quote:
|
||||||||||||||||
Posts: 59,974
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#272 | ||
Supporter
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Olathe, Ks
Casino cash: $74227
|
I don't call a 51-48 victory being soundly rejected.
__________________
Quote:
Quote:
|
||
Posts: 94,203
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#273 |
Has a particular set of skills
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $39727
![]() |
In todays electorate, yes it does.
|
Posts: 59,974
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#274 |
For The Glory Of The City
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Kansas City
Casino cash: $13868
|
The lead up and aftermath of this election has been a joy.
People going crazy. Companies blaming Obama for their own woes in the free market. Dogs and cats...living together...mass hysteria. |
Posts: 47,161
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#275 |
One Groovy Cat
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: The Pitt State baby
Casino cash: $27292
|
|
Posts: 32,202
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#276 | |||||||||||||||||
Bucs, Pats, Noles
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $70063
|
Quote:
Now let's look at this election another way: There are 207.6 million eligible voters in the U.S. The number who voted is 123.7 million. About 40.4 percent didn't vote. Quote:
The Republicans still have a majority in the House—that's the only place any revenue bill can originate. It's not one of the President's powers. The power of the purse belongs to the House. They don't have to give him what he wants. He has no right to dictate to them either as if he's an elected dictator. That's what you're demanding. He already dressed the SC down twice. We have checks and balances. "An elective despotism was not the government we fought for; but one in which the powers of government should be so divided and balanced among the several bodies of magistracy as that no one could transcend their legal limits without being effectually checked and restrained by the others." - James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 58, 1788
__________________
![]() “Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked about such a thing.” ~ Dwight D. Eisenhower |
|||||||||||||||||
Posts: 98,380
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#277 |
Bucs, Pats, Noles
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $70063
|
No it doesn't. That's just your opinion. It's enough to be elected president, but we have three branches of govt.
The EC is to create a clear winner and because of the role of the president since he represents the nation in terms of treaties, ambassadors, meeting foreign officials and executing war. He does not represent the various constituencies. The House has that role. So he does not craft legislation.
__________________
![]() “Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked about such a thing.” ~ Dwight D. Eisenhower |
Posts: 98,380
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#278 |
Starter
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Midwest coast
Casino cash: $13612
|
Nowhere do I see Texans demanding that Texas withdraw from and pay all of their "citizens" social security, medicar, medicade expenses. Neither do I see them demanding that they pay all consruction and maintainance of their interstate roads, airport maintnenace, nor demand that they assume funding of any and all programs, including farm subsidies, in lieu of sending federal tax dollars back east.
It just seems that they are being a bunch of brats who just want to take their toys and go home because the election didn't go their way.
__________________
This is the place where brilliant minds assemble to willfully pool ignorance with questionable logic in order to reach absurd conclusions. |
Posts: 593
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#279 | |
Akhilandeswari
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: In Partibus Infidelium
Casino cash: $37580
|
Quote:
http://interactive.taxfoundation.org...exas&usa=false |
|
Posts: 43,652
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#280 |
Akhilandeswari
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: In Partibus Infidelium
Casino cash: $37580
|
And:
In 2009, most states — there were 45, including Texas — received more than residents paid in taxes. Though no data is yet available, DeLuna Castro said Texas will again receive more than residents paid in taxes in 2010. But by 2011, when stimulus funds dry up, she speculated that Texas will revert to being a "donor state." Summing up: The figures from our sources show two different trends. On an annual basis between 1981 and 2003, Texas almost always paid more in federal taxes than it got back from Uncle Sam. But since 2003 the reverse has been true, with Texas receiving more than it paid in five out of seven years, which is close to routine. http://www.politifact.com/texas/stat...outinely-rece/ |
Posts: 43,652
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#281 | |
Banned
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sea of Green 23.4°
Casino cash: $5000
|
Quote:
![]() Texas sends over $200 billion dollars a year to wash dc. I'm sure they can figure out how to maintain interstate roads if they get to keep that. |
|
Posts: 3,833
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#282 |
Banned
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sea of Green 23.4°
Casino cash: $5000
|
|
Posts: 3,833
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#283 |
Akhilandeswari
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: In Partibus Infidelium
Casino cash: $37580
|
"In 2009, most states — there were 45, including Texas — received more than residents paid in taxes. Though no data is yet available, DeLuna Castro said Texas will again receive more than residents paid in taxes in 2010."
That would be the entire sentence. Were you lol'ing because you misread the quote? by the way, the article explains that from 1981 to 2003 Texas contributed more to the Federal government in taxes than it received. From roughly the beginning of W's second term to now that was flip flopped for a slight majority of years due to stimulus money being sent out to all the states, including Texas. |
Posts: 43,652
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#284 | |
Banned
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sea of Green 23.4°
Casino cash: $5000
|
Quote:
The taxpayers in Texas did not get back there money. The statement that these states "received more than residents paid in taxes" might be accurate, however who is "the state"? Federal employees who work in that state? Do you have any idea how many military bases are in Texas? Do you know how much federal property has to be maintained in those states? How much of that money goes to medicaid costs? Yeah, neither do I, because the OP doesn't provide the information. Also when you factor in the waste, fraud and abuse, I guarantee the +200 billion dollars that Texas sends to the pig trough in wash dc would be managed much more efficiently if they just kept the money and handled the above mentioned costs themselves. In fact, they would be left with a surplus. |
|
Posts: 3,833
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#285 | |
Akhilandeswari
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: In Partibus Infidelium
Casino cash: $37580
|
Quote:
|
|
Posts: 43,652
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|