Chiefs I think it's gonna be Barkley. - Page 6

Chris Meck · 11-13-2012, 12:05 PM

I think that Smith has more obvious physical ability, but there are real questions about offensive system he's in and his performance against real competition.

Barkley's a good bet to at least be a solid NFL QB. Intangibles are all there, and he's run a pro style offense for 4 years.

I think people are making too big of a deal about his arm being weak; it's not weak, it's just not elite. He's super accurate, though.

KC_Lee · 11-13-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Barkley has had some bad games this year, for sure. If he had come out last year, he'd have definitely been the 3rd QB in the Top Ten, if not the Top Five.

Word on the street here is that Lane Kiffin is a goner. Pat Haden and USC believe that Barkley has regressed and not improved this year and to them, the blame lies with Lane Kiffin. Their defense is absolutely loaded with talent but they're playing an antiquated scheme.

The bottom line is that Barkley is a mature young man with four years as a starting QB at a Top 25 school. He has all of the immeasurables you'd want in a QB including strong leadership and great character (in addition to respect of his teammates) and he's not lacking in any measurables. Sure, more arm strength would be nice but he's certainly not lacking in arm strength.

He'll need to go to a team willing to tailer a WCO offense around his skills and if so, should be a very good NFL QB. Unlike Sanchez and Leinart, Barkley LOVES football.

That said, I think it's silly to make any determination now. Wait until after bowl season, after the Combines and after a new GM and coaching staff is in place.

This, over and over.

Clean house, hire a new GM and coaching staff, let the HC & OC build the playbook, then and only then choose a QB in the 1st round.

**DoucheMcCloud** · 11-13-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by oldman

Also take a late round flyer on Jordan Rodgers from Vanderbilt.

He's an undrafted free agent unless a team with an extra 7th round pick wants him and see him as a long term developmental QB.

He has a long, long, long way to go before he's a NFL QB.

PGM · 11-13-2012, 03:09 PM

Not wanting Barkley because he's another USC QB is as dumb as not wanting Rodgers cause he was a Tedford guy. Each prospect should be measured individually and by their own merits. Barkley would be a damn fine selection on draft day.

PGM · 11-13-2012, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Barkley isn't even good enough to have a great season with a team stacked with talent. I want a QB that makes a team better than it is.

They should just draft Steele Jantz

lcarus · 11-13-2012, 03:13 PM

Barkley, Geno, Tyler Wilson...just get me one of them and get rid of Cassel. I really like Geno the best though.

Buckweath · 11-13-2012, 03:19 PM

Good thing is the Chiefs are sure to get a chance to draft one of those three, unlike last year when I personnally think they would have picked Tannehill if available.

Nightfyre · 11-13-2012, 03:19 PM

One of my primary concerns with Barkley will be his ability to put zip on intermediate routes in the NFL. He doesn't have a particularly strong arm to begin with and he is short which will change the trajectory he needs to throw at.

BoneKrusher · 11-13-2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Not wanting Barkley because he's another USC QB is as dumb as not wanting Rodgers cause he was a Tedford guy. Each prospect should be measured individually and by their own merits. Barkley would be a damn fine selection on draft day.

i know it does, it's just there's been too many QB bust from USC over the last 10 years.

xztop12 · 11-13-2012, 03:41 PM

Barbecue for Barkley

DBOSHO · 11-13-2012, 03:42 PM

Speaking of tyler wilson, id love if we grabbed his wr along with him, cobi hamilton.

Hes about bowes size with probably a little more speed.

Get them two, a new right corner, and SS to move berry to free, and id consider this coming draft a home run.

**DoucheMcCloud** · 11-13-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

i know it does, it's just there's been too many QB bust from USC over the last 10 years.

Two? That means they all bust?

And last I checked, both guys are still in the NFL. They weren't JaMarcus Russell. It happens.

That's pretty weak logic.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-13-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

I agree.

I think Barkley will be a fine QB. Everytime CP wants to rip Barkley, i think back to the year Ryan was drafted. A lot of people were against drafting him for the same reasons they are against drafting Barkley.

Personally, I prefer Wilson, but i think Barkley is safer and Smith has the most talent.

Yep, that says "Chiefs"!

Boo.

Suck.

ChiefsCountry · 11-13-2012, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Two? That means they all bust?

And last I checked, both guys are still in the NFL. They weren't JaMarcus Russell. It happens.

That's pretty weak logic.

Three and they are all still in the NFL.

**DoucheMcCloud** · 11-13-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth*****Satan

Yep, that says "Chiefs"!

Boo.

Suck.

Barkley may be "safer" because he's a proven four year starter at one of the nation's best universities.

No first round pick is immune to being a bad pick in the NFL but going with the "safe bet" at quarterback isn't necessarily a "bad" thing.

Locker and Gabbert weren't safe bets and I wouldn't take either. It's pretty clear to me that Sarkissian, Locker's coach (and Leinart & Sanchez's coach) coached those guys up big time.

Barkley has succeeded despite being coached by Kiffin.

**DoucheMcCloud** · 11-13-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Three and they are all still in the NFL.

Three? Who I am forgetting, unless he's saying that Carson Palmer is a bust?

John David Booty was a 5th rounder. I don't think anyone expected greatness from him.

11-13-2012, 12:05 PM
Chris Meck Veteran Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $8003	I think it's gonna be Barkley. I think that Smith has more obvious physical ability, but there are real questions about offensive system he's in and his performance against real competition. Barkley's a good bet to at least be a solid NFL QB. Intangibles are all there, and he's run a pro style offense for 4 years. I think people are making too big of a deal about his arm being weak; it's not weak, it's just not elite. He's super accurate, though.
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lcarus Everybody Lies. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue Casino cash: $55991	Barkley, Geno, Tyler Wilson...just get me one of them and get rid of Cassel. I really like Geno the best though.
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Buckweath Starter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Quebec, Canada Casino cash: $7354	Good thing is the Chiefs are sure to get a chance to draft one of those three, unlike last year when I personnally think they would have picked Tannehill if available.
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Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ft. Rucker, AL Casino cash: $68262	One of my primary concerns with Barkley will be his ability to put zip on intermediate routes in the NFL. He doesn't have a particularly strong arm to begin with and he is short which will change the trajectory he needs to throw at.
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xztop12 Starter Join Date: May 2010 Casino cash: $9019	Barbecue for Barkley
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DBOSHO trap champ Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $176835	Speaking of tyler wilson, id love if we grabbed his wr along with him, cobi hamilton. Hes about bowes size with probably a little more speed. Get them two, a new right corner, and SS to move berry to free, and id consider this coming draft a home run. __________________ Orginator of the group repost
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