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Old 11-08-2011, 07:10 PM  
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-- Duplicating 'Fred & Reds' chili-mac

I have to say, I've duplicated it, perfectly.

Ingredients:
1.75 #'s - ground sirloin
1 can of regular 'bush' chili beans
2 Tablespoons of extra virgin Olive Oil
1 large can of store brand Tomato sauce
3 heaping Tablespoons of 'Sugar In The Raw'
1 envelope of 'Frenchs' brand chili seasoning WITH onions (yellow envelope)
2 envelopes of store brand chili seasoning
various olive oil amount for pasta water (the 2 Tablespoons are for the actual chili)





Full Procedure:
I use a large alloy pan pot.
Start by browning entire meat content in ONE Tablespoon of Olive Oil
once meat is 80% brown, start in w/ the envelopes of seasoning - adding as it finalizes it's cooking time. scramble meat well - DO NOT drain, as it's sirloin and very limited on how much fat cooks out.
Add Sugar w/ the last envelope of seasoning, add entire tomato sauce and entire can of beans, again don't drain anything, here.
agitate entire ingredients - excluding the pasta.
drizzle in the other tablespoon of olive oil.

Simmer for at least 25 minutes.

Pasta:
One Box of regular spaghetti pasta - add to Olive Oiled rolling boiling water - cover w/ vent - cook for bottom side of the recommended time - So about 9 minutes.
drain and run cool water over it.

I fold mine all together and freeze via the deep tupperware sealable containers.

It's delicious.

Let me know if you have any questions, this is simple and no culinary break through, for sure; but very tasty and hearty ANNNND economical.

Good luck ya'll.

-Thanks for visiting the thread, food is always popular on here.





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Old 11-06-2012, 11:32 PM   #46
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I'm having a problem with something called "chili mac" that uses "spaghetti". Anyone else having this problem?
From a technical standpoint, yes. Red dropped the ball there, but after eating so-called "Chili Mac" in the Army in about a thousand different forms, I'm willing to give him a pass as long as it stands up to the taste test.

My only problem with the recipe has already been called out in terms of packaged chili seasonings...but again, it's Chili Mac. There has to be some leaway given in all aspects.
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:58 AM   #47
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Fred and Reds is for sale. The actual recipe could be yours if the price is right. Original grease on the plates included.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:09 AM   #48
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I hate to say it, but that recipe isn't even close. Believe it or not, there are no tomato products used in Fred & Red's chili. Also, there are no beans in spaghetti red.
Here's a recipe that pretty much nails it:
http://wegottaeat.com/travis/recipes...d-chili-recipe
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Old 06-12-2014, 10:25 PM   #49
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I'm making this tomorrow and posting it in the tamale // chili mac thread - It's my cheat day.
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Yeah that recipe isn't close.

Again, I failed both times making my attempt at the faux-Fred and Red's chili. But on the second attempt, it at least smelled identical and had the correct consistency.

The taste only came around when I POURED salt on each bite.
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Old 06-12-2014, 10:30 PM   #51
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Yeah that recipe isn't close.

Again, I failed both times making my attempt at the faux-Fred and Red's chili. But on the second attempt, it at least smelled identical and had the correct consistency.

The taste only came around when I POURED salt on each bite.
when I did this it tasted almost exactly the same - I think they may've used that French's label of seasoning. It's pretty good for that packaged bullshit.
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when I did this it tasted almost exactly the same - I think they may've used that French's label of seasoning. It's pretty good for that packaged bullshit.
The FB recipe calls for William's Chili Powder, and some cumin.

Also, it calls for half a package of saltines to be ground up and added into the beef after it's been browned.
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The FB recipe calls for William's Chili Powder, and some cumin.

Also, it calls for half a package of saltines to be ground up and added into the beef after it's been browned.
that's interesting - thanks.
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that's interesting - thanks.
Here you go, SR

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Okay, here's my "fake" F&R chili recipe.

Note - I don't know if this is the actual thing or not. It's based on two look-alike recipes I found by Googling, and a third that appeared in the Joplin Globe a few months ago. I've made a few very minor changes to the ingredient ratios, but fundamentally it's the same recipe as published in those sources.

2 lbs ground beef
3 TBSP (or one 1-oz packet) Williams Chili Seasoning
1 tsp ea of Cumin and Garlic Salt
2/3 sleeve saltines (approx 25 crackers)
3 C water, divided

Brown and drain the beef, then add spices and simmer 15 minutes. Add saltines and 2-1/2 C water, cover and simmer 30 minutes. Remove cover, add final 1/2 C water, and simmer an additional 30 minutes.

If the chili gets too thick, add a little more water - you know what the consistency should be, so you'll know if/when this is necessary.

Two of the online recipes call for using the fattiest ground beef and NOT draining the fat after the beef has browned. I've made it both ways and much prefer to drain. But if you opt to leave the grease in, reduce the water to 2 C during the first simmer and 1/2 C during the second.

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To scale this recipe to make a 3-lb batch of chili, follow the instructions above but make these substitutions:

3 lbs ground beef
4-1/2 TBSP (or 1.5 1-oz packets) Williams Chili Seasoning
1-1/2 tsp ea of Cumin and Garlic Salt
1 sleeve saltines (approx 40 crackers)
4-1/2 C water, divided (3-3/4 C if leaving the grease in)

Divide the water as follows:
3-3/4 C first simmer (3C if leaving the grease in)
3/4 C second simmer
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Williams is made in Missouri or Kansas huh? I've not seen that in years. I bet it's good though. I don't mind spice mixes as much - I know several here do though.
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Williams is made in Missouri or Kansas huh? I've not seen that in years. I bet it's good though. I don't mind spice mixes as much - I know several here do though.
Don't know, seemed pretty ubiquitous. HyVee in Springfield stocks it.
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The problem I had was with the simmer.

First batch I never stirred it, so a nice layer of beef congealed to my saute pan.

Second time I stirred it CONSTANTLY to prevent the aforementioned effect, and I think it ****ed everything up.
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It's made in Cleveland Texas and is available online.
http://www.amazon.com/Williams-Chili...pr_product_top

Its headquarters is in Lenexa ks. Think its made there also. This is the only Chilli spice that satisfies me when I make at home. It reminds me of chilli we had as kids when we would play all day outdoors in the snow. We would com in and mom would have chilli for us.
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http://www.amazon.com/Williams-Chili...pr_product_top

Its headquarters is in Lenexa ks. Think its made there also. This is the only Chilli spice that satisfies me when I make at home. It reminds me of chilli we had as kids when we would play all day outdoors in the snow. We would com in and mom would have chilli for us.
OK I misread - but I THOUGHT it was made nearby KC. that's cool.
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