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Old 09-27-2012, 05:43 PM  
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Geno Smith Will Be The 1st QB Taken

So far, I've broken down 7 games of Barkley in a row, including Syracuse, Hawaii and Stanford from this year. I can tell you right now that Smith and maybe Wilson (with a strong rest of the season) will be taken ahead of him if Barkley continues at his current rate.

Barkley's tape from last year looks much better last year as opposed to this year. USC is running a lot more WR screens which doesn't help him, but he looks significantly worse so far. He tends to lock on to receivers more this year than last, go to his checkdowns more, throws off his back foot more (product in part from not getting a quality drop and having to rush throws), and his accuracy down the field isn't as good as last year. His accuracy issues are in part to him mainly not driving off his back foot (which causes his passes downfield to sail a bit and his closer passes to be behind) and are also do to him not finishing his follow-through on his release (mainly due to pressure or his thought that it exists). His O-Line is not as good as last year and he is not adjusting as well as he should be. It isn't horrible (Bears) but it is having an outcome in his accuracy and quickness to check the ball down.

I'll have a complete breakdown by next week of every game from 2011 and through 2012, probably via Word Doc. if people are interested. I was mainly doing it for Billay since he asked but I figured you all would enjoy getting to analyze my own analysis and provide your thoughts. Plus, most of you are actually competent and will be able to provide feedback (positive/negative) that will help formulate a better opinion of Barkley for this upcoming draft.
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Old 10-23-2012, 03:29 PM   #16
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Two games, and three more against decent D's. Time will tell.

Right now, he's still a good prospect, but:
1) When he has to get air under the ball he struggles.
2) When he has to move in the pocket, or outside, he panics a bit.
What in the hell are you watching? This is absolutely inconsistent with my observations. He has a more accurate deep ball than RG3 and terrific poise in the pocket even under pressure. He RARELY stares at the rush, typically only when someone comes completely free. I have watched several hours of this kid and I can tell that you are completely off-base here.
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:32 PM   #17
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What in the hell are you watching? This is absolutely inconsistent with my observations. He has a more accurate deep ball than RG3 and terrific poise in the pocket even under pressure. He RARELY stares at the rush, typically only when someone comes completely free. I have watched several hours of this kid and I can tell that you are completely off-base here.
Nevermind. I read his air under ball comments as touch passes, but then I read some earlier posts. He's dead wrong.
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:19 PM   #18
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What in the hell are you watching? This is absolutely inconsistent with my observations. He has a more accurate deep ball than RG3 and terrific poise in the pocket even under pressure. He RARELY stares at the rush, typically only when someone comes completely free. I have watched several hours of this kid and I can tell that you are completely off-base here.
You are a completely wrong. Better and more accurate deep ball than RGIII?

Poise in the pocket? Did you watch the last two games when he was under pressure?
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:08 PM   #19
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You are a completely wrong. Better and more accurate deep ball than RGIII?

Poise in the pocket? Did you watch the last two games when he was under pressure?
I watched both games and I saw someone who was consistently looking downfield unless someone came completely free. I saw him taking hits to deliver throws. I have watched his LSU youtube video three times and seen the exact same stuff. You are wrong about this.
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Old 11-04-2012, 01:49 PM   #20
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I watched both games and I saw someone who was consistently looking downfield unless someone came completely free. I saw him taking hits to deliver throws. I have watched his LSU youtube video three times and seen the exact same stuff. You are wrong about this.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:22 PM   #21
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Changing your mind yet?
Not one bit.
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Changing your mind yet?
Why would I? Do you even watch the games?
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:17 PM   #23
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Why would I? Do you even watch the games?
Yes. Which is why I said wait until the year is over and he actually plays some teams with decent defenses.
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So far, I've broken down 7 games of Barkley in a row, including Syracuse, Hawaii and Stanford from this year. I can tell you right now that Smith and maybe Wilson (with a strong rest of the season) will be taken ahead of him if Barkley continues at his current rate.

Barkley's tape from last year looks much better last year as opposed to this year. USC is running a lot more WR screens which doesn't help him, but he looks significantly worse so far. He tends to lock on to receivers more this year than last, go to his checkdowns more, throws off his back foot more (product in part from not getting a quality drop and having to rush throws), and his accuracy down the field isn't as good as last year. His accuracy issues are in part to him mainly not driving off his back foot (which causes his passes downfield to sail a bit and his closer passes to be behind) and are also do to him not finishing his follow-through on his release (mainly due to pressure or his thought that it exists). His O-Line is not as good as last year and he is not adjusting as well as he should be. It isn't horrible (Bears) but it is having an outcome in his accuracy and quickness to check the ball down.

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Old 11-05-2012, 10:23 PM   #25
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Why don't you watch those games and see if you come away with the same conclusion, dumbass.


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