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Old 07-19-2012, 10:37 PM  
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Chiefs defense this year. What do you expect?

The first year and a half of Romeo seemed we sat back in a lot of coverage. I am not saying we didn't blitz but it appeared anyway we didn't do it a whole lot relying on Hali to be the man. Last year the NE game we started blitzing like crazy, at least compared to what is seemed we did before. Particularly DJ seemed to start coming up the middle a lot more.
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:34 AM   #46
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I was arguing with a friend that's an Eagles fan about our defense. I basically said ours had more talent and was better overall. I was a bit surprised to find we had allowed something like 21.1 ppg last season (the Eagles allowed 20.5, IIRC). I'm on my phone now so would anyone be willing to calculate our defenses ppg allowed for the final 8 games?
17.6 ppg
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:39 AM   #47
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17.6 ppg
Two games against Tim Tebow, one against Caleb Hiney.

Convenient.
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:41 AM   #48
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Two games against Tim Tebow, one against Caleb Hiney.

Convenient.
14 pts vs. Aaron Rodgers.

Suck it, bitch.

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Old 07-21-2012, 09:43 AM   #49
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89 points against Fitzpatrick and Stafford and 20 against Tebow. That's how it works.
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:44 AM   #50
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14 pts vs. Aaron Rodgers.

Suck it, bitch.

That's admirable, but a statistical outlier.

It's embarrassing that we allowed 17 at home to Tebow.
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:46 AM   #51
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89 points against Fitzpatrick and Stafford and 20 against Tebow. That's how it works.
A good defense should do what we did to Tebow in Week 17 every time.

Not that Week 9 at Arrowhead bullshit.
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:48 AM   #52
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I think the development of Jerrel Powe, as well as any contribution from Dontari Poe, is going to be vital to the continued development of this defense.

No one is talking about JP, but I've siad this before, he looked like the best NT on the field in the preseason last year, and I can not understand this team's hesitation to put late round rookie linemen on the field during the regular season, but it appears that is how they feel is the best way to develop those guys.

I am really looking forward to the preseason to see how Powe has progressed.
I hope you are right.
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:52 AM   #53
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I think it could be very good. We'll start out slow with the new pieces in place probably but we'll gel and get better as the season goes on. The better Cassel and the offense plays, the better the defense is gonna look no matter what.
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Old 07-21-2012, 09:57 AM   #54
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I imagine we will continue our bend but don't break mentality. Considering the Qbs we are up against, our yards per game stat won't be as nearly as important as points per game. Similar to NE last year. They gave up a ton of yards but ranked much better in points.
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:30 AM   #55
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Optimism is good... but lets be real here fer a sec

Week 1 vs the Bills the Chiefs got blown out 41-7

Week 2 vs the Lions again they were blown out 48-3

Both games Cassel and Charles played.. there were no excuses then, and they mustered up a mere 10 points in 2 games

And the Defense?

They gave up damn near 100 points in 2 games

I find it difficult to believe that Stanford Routt and a rookie that's never taken an NFL snap in his career would have held the Bills and Lions to 13 points

The Bills now have Mario Williams

Someone convince me how things have changed when the Chiefs go to Buffalo in week 2
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:38 AM   #56
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Optimism is good... but lets be real here fer a sec

Week 1 vs the Bills the Chiefs got blown out 41-7

Week 2 vs the Lions again they were blown out 48-3

Both games Cassel and Charles played.. there were no excuses then, and they mustered up a mere 10 points in 2 games

And the Defense?

They gave up damn near 100 points in 2 games

I find it difficult to believe that Stanford Routt and a rookie that's never taken an NFL snap in his career would have held the Bills and Lions to 13 points

The Bills now have Mario Williams

Someone convince me how things have changed when the Chiefs go to Buffalo in week 2
JC was injured early vs Detroit. That game was close until Cassel started giving the ball away.
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Old 07-21-2012, 10:38 AM   #57
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Optimism is good... but lets be real here fer a sec

Week 1 vs the Bills the Chiefs got blown out 41-7

Week 2 vs the Lions again they were blown out 48-3

Both games Cassel and Charles played.. there were no excuses then, and they mustered up a mere 10 points in 2 games

And the Defense?

They gave up damn near 100 points in 2 games

I find it difficult to believe that Stanford Routt and a rookie that's never taken an NFL snap in his career would have held the Bills and Lions to 13 points

The Bills now have Mario Williams

Someone convince me how things have changed when the Chiefs go to Buffalo in week 2
I'm a firm believer that this is, at best, a 7-9 team this year.

I'm also a firm believer that responding to a Raider troll with a serious post is a waste of time.

But, I've got time to waste, so what the hell.

What has changed is preparation.

Todd Haley took a different approach to the shortened traing camp from every other coach in the league, a more relaxed, almost OTA style approach, in an effort to minimize injuries going into the season.

The end result was a team that was ill prepared to start the season, and that team paid for that mistake.
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:10 AM   #58
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I'm a firm believer that this is, at best, a 7-9 team this year.

I'm also a firm believer that responding to a Raider troll with a serious post is a waste of time.

But, I've got time to waste, so what the hell.

What has changed is preparation.

Todd Haley took a different approach to the shortened traing camp from every other coach in the league, a more relaxed, almost OTA style approach, in an effort to minimize injuries going into the season.

The end result was a team that was ill prepared to start the season, and that team paid for that mistake.
It's all good man

Not trolling- just making a point

I'd also like to point out a very telling stat

Are you aware?? That in the last 5 years from 2007-2011

The Chiefs have only beaten 3 teams that finished over .500??
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:12 AM   #59
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Todd Haley took a different approach to the shortened traing camp from every other coach in the league, a more relaxed, almost OTA style approach, in an effort to minimize injuries going into the season.

The end result was a team that was ill prepared to start the season, and that team paid for that mistake.
What really stood out to me this past season was the enormous change in preparedness, intensity and professionalism when Romeo Crennel and Kyle Orton took over the team.

The team was focused and determined, something I hadn't seen from a Chiefs team since early 2010, especially the offense. Even with a severely depleted roster, Crennel was somehow able to get more out of this team than Todd Haley did in the three plus years he served as head coach.

I could be completely off-base and it's way, way too early to make any kind of solid prediction, especially because no one knows how Berry, Charles and Moeaki will respond to their off-season surgeries, but I am very optimistic about the 2012 season.

7-9 would be a major disappointment, IMO. If this team is healthy, I think a playoff win is likely, even with Cassel at the helm. They're just loaded at talent at nearly every position and young players like Allen, Poe and Menzie may surpass the veterans ahead of them earlier than some might expect.

And the defense could be special.
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Old 07-21-2012, 11:31 AM   #60
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I could be completely off-base and it's way, way too early to make any kind of solid prediction, especially because no one knows how Berry, Charles and Moeaki will respond to their off-season surgeries, but I am very optimistic about the 2012 season.

7-9 would be a major disappointment, IMO. If this team is healthy, I think a playoff win is likely, even with Cassel at the helm. They're just loaded at talent at nearly every position and young players like Allen, Poe and Menzie may surpass the veterans ahead of them earlier than some might expect.

And the defense could be special.
Hey. This is optimism. Its not permitted here.



I say 10 wins.
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