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Old 05-01-2012, 08:02 AM  
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When to expect the Chiefs to draft a QB in the 1st round

Since the Chiefs started drafting players they have drafted 20 QBs 2 of which were in the first round (Todd Blackledge, 1983 and Steve Fuller, 1979). Only 7 QBs have been drafted in the first 3 rounds (Croyle, Blundin, Elkins, Blackledge, Fuller, Jaynes, and Livingston). By way of comparison, only 3 positions have seen less draft picks (C, K, and P). Furthermore, Jacksonville and Carolina have each drafted 2 QBs in the first round since entering the league in 1995 as well as Baltimore since 1996. Only Houston has drafted less QBs in the 1st round (1).

Total draft picks (1st round picks)
Total 523 (47)
QB 20 (2)
RB 75 (7)
WR 67 (5)
TE 26 (2)
C 17 (0)
G 35 (5)
T 50 (7)
DE 43 (5)
DT 40 (6)
LB 61 (3)
DB 80 (5)
P 5 (0)
K 4 (0)

I find it amazing that the two players that touch the ball on every play are two of the worst drafted positions.
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:11 PM   #181
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Which franchise QB in the last decade were we in a position to draft in the 1st? If you say Aaron Rodger you are 50/50 hindsite because few expected him to succeed at the time, hence his dropping down. Only other QB selected in the 1st after the Chiefs was Flacco.
Well you have to be willing to trade up. We have been a middle of the road team for a lot of years. You will not normally find a franchise QB in the middle of the first round. If we ever want to be anything more than middle of the road, mediocre, we will have to trade up. Either that or have a horrible 2-14 type season.
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Old 05-04-2012, 04:36 PM   #182
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Well you have to be willing to trade up. We have been a middle of the road team for a lot of years. You will not normally find a franchise QB in the middle of the first round. If we ever want to be anything more than middle of the road, mediocre, we will have to trade up. Either that or have a horrible 2-14 type season.
Detroit wasn't going to trade down when they drafted Stafford. St. Louis wasn't going to trade down when they got Bradford. Additionally trading into the top 5 used to be such a great financial burden that if the pick was trash, so was your team for 3 years. The only other QB we were in position for was Ryan whom many were not sold on anyway, and Sanchez whom we are glad we passed on. There was no way we were going to be able to trade down from 11 to 2 this year and trading up to reach for Tannehill would have been the ultimate in desperation moves.
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Old 05-04-2012, 05:44 PM   #183
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Detroit wasn't going to trade down when they drafted Stafford. St. Louis wasn't going to trade down when they got Bradford. Additionally trading into the top 5 used to be such a great financial burden that if the pick was trash, so was your team for 3 years. The only other QB we were in position for was Ryan whom many were not sold on anyway, and Sanchez whom we are glad we passed on. There was no way we were going to be able to trade down from 11 to 2 this year and trading up to reach for Tannehill would have been the ultimate in desperation moves.
So you want to use hindsight to say who we shouldn't have taken, but don't want anyone to use hindsight to suggest Rodgers?

The point is, KC hasn't tried. Brodie Croyle is the closest they've come in 2 decades.
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Old 05-04-2012, 06:20 PM   #184
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Old 05-04-2012, 06:22 PM   #185
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Old 05-04-2012, 06:30 PM   #186
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So you want to use hindsight to say who we shouldn't have taken, but don't want anyone to use hindsight to suggest Rodgers?

The point is, KC hasn't tried. Brodie Croyle is the closest they've come in 2 decades.
No, I'm saying at the time there wasn't a groundswell for any of the players we missed on and could have realistically had with the exception of Sanchez. No hindsight at all. Nobody was really crying when Ryan went ahead of us. You have Flacco, Sanchez and Freeman that went first after we picked aside from Rodgers. Nobody wanted to trade up to 3rd for us to move down to get Freeman. In those days a top 5 pick was too much of a burden financially.
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:19 PM   #187
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In the last decade, without making any trades, the Chiefs could have selected any of the following:
Marc Bulger
Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Joe Flacco
Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman
Andy Dalton
Ryan Mallet

If you are willing to entertain (realistic) hypothetical trades, the Chiefs could have selected the following:
Ben Roethlisberger
Robert Griffin III
Ryan Tannehill

Of course, ***** is only on the hook for a little over half of those guys.
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Old 05-04-2012, 11:16 PM   #188
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It would be nice if this chart showed the 1st round breakdown (1-10, 11-20, 21+)
the numbers are right next to the picks in little white letters.
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Old 05-05-2012, 12:06 AM   #189
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***** needs to win ASAP and Romeo is flat old. Neither one of them wants anything to do with a rookie QB.
They would have drafted Luck or Griffin this year if they were in the right place in the draft. Romeo had the worst poker face I have ever seen after his interview with RG3.
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Old 05-05-2012, 08:00 AM   #190
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They would have drafted Luck or Griffin this year if they were in the right place in the draft. Romeo had the worst poker face I have ever seen after his interview with RG3.
Every team was in the right place to get Griffin. It was a matter of making an offer.
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Old 05-05-2012, 08:01 AM   #191
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In the last decade, without making any trades, the Chiefs could have selected any of the following:
Marc Bulger
Tom Brady
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Joe Flacco
Mark Sanchez
Josh Freeman
Andy Dalton
Ryan Mallet

If you are willing to entertain (realistic) hypothetical trades, the Chiefs could have selected the following:
Ben Roethlisberger
Robert Griffin III
Ryan Tannehill

Of course, ***** is only on the hook for a little over half of those guys.
And while it's certainly not FAIR to blame ***** for the draft records of previous regimes, people have to realize that ***** is the face of the Kansas City Chiefs and has openly embraced the "legacy" of the Chiefs publicly. He wants to talk about Chiefs "glory" and "tradition".

Well, guess what? That "tradition" includes the team NEVER drafting and developing it's own QB. He willingly accepted the blame, sorry.
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Old 05-05-2012, 08:02 AM   #192
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They would have drafted Luck or Griffin this year if they were in the right place in the draft. Romeo had the worst poker face I have ever seen after his interview with RG3.
No they wouldn't have. They had their chance and passed.
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Old 05-05-2012, 06:36 PM   #193
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No they wouldn't have. They had their chance and passed.
Yes if they were drafting 1st or 2nd they would have. They had their chance to give up too much for one unproven and lest not forget they would have had to beat the Redskins offer so all that they gave up we would have to give up more.
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Every team was in the right place to get Griffin. It was a matter of making an offer.
Keep ignoring the fact that the Skins held the trump card over every team picking after them.
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