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Old 04-14-2012, 01:26 PM  
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Old 04-16-2012, 03:58 PM   #61
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Jabari Brown ... that name sounds familiar.

I remember watching Oriakhi play a lot -- as UConn typically played in the game that preceded KU on Big MONDAY.

How does the following year look?

Any orals, or commitments yet?
KU offered Brown. He played on Drew Gooden's AAU team. Don't think we have anything lined up for the following year. Still rounding out this class. Devonta Pollard has us on his short list. He's ranked anywhere from 9 to 22 depending on the rating service. Think he goes to GTown or Bama, though.
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Old 04-16-2012, 04:10 PM   #62
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Is Brown a juco product then?

I was under the assumption he was transferring from another D1 school.
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Old 04-16-2012, 04:17 PM   #63
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Is Brown a juco product then?

I was under the assumption he was transferring from another D1 school.
He transferred from Oregon I believe, and is not eligible to plan until Jan.
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Old 04-16-2012, 04:38 PM   #64
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Somehow I'm not real worried about losing recruits to KSU. Even when KSU was at their apex, they weren't exactly stealing recruits from under our noses. Now that good ol' Dudly Weber is there, I just don't give a large rats ass about the fightin' Ekos.

Likewise with Illinois. They haven't generally been a threat for premier Missouri talent.

If Mizzou can lock down 1/2 of Missouri's top-shelf (i.e. 4 and 5 star) talents, they'll be in very good shape. That's 1 or 2 of those premium players every year; more than enough to build the foundation for a very strong program. Surround them with a plus transfer, a high-end out of state player or 2, (getting a Webster-Chan caliber player every season shouldn't be tough) and some good coaching finds (the Dixons/Denmons of the world) and Mizzou should be a threat for the Sweet 16 most seasons.

Well, provided they can slip past Norfolk State, that is.

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Illinois with a coach that can recruit could be the occasional problem, I mean the reason recently they haven't been an issue is the same reason you're citing for KSU not going to be an issue anytime soon with Weber. Still I think you're probably on the money with a goal of getting around 50% long term expectations wise, and yeah that Norfolk State thing is going to stick with you a while. Just be glad for the little things like Duke dropping the game vs. Lehigh and bailing you out from getting anywhere near the media scrutiny you'd have otherwise pulled. Went from possibly the story of the week from the tournament to "oh and this also happened."
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Old 04-16-2012, 05:42 PM   #65
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Illinois with a coach that can recruit could be the occasional problem, I mean the reason recently they haven't been an issue is the same reason you're citing for KSU not going to be an issue anytime soon with Weber. Still I think you're probably on the money with a goal of getting around 50% long term expectations wise, and yeah that Norfolk State thing is going to stick with you a while. Just be glad for the little things like Duke dropping the game vs. Lehigh and bailing you out from getting anywhere near the media scrutiny you'd have otherwise pulled. Went from possibly the story of the week from the tournament to "oh and this also happened."
If the team makes a deep run in the NCAA tourney next year, and makes a final four in the next 4 years or so, Norfolk State will be a fading memory.
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Old 04-16-2012, 06:27 PM   #66
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I don't think recruits really give two shits about Norfolk State. Teams lose early in the tourney every year and land top guys. Shit UCLA was terrible this year and landed a top class. I knew they are UCLA, but still.



I'm anxious to see if Haith gets into the same lull that he did at the U. I think most MU fans would agree that he inherited a pretty good situation. It will be 2 or 3 years before you really see what he can do with the program.
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:20 PM   #67
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:27 PM   #68
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I don't think recruits really give two shits about Norfolk State. Teams lose early in the tourney every year and land top guys. Shit UCLA was terrible this year and landed a top class. I knew they are UCLA, but still.



I'm anxious to see if Haith gets into the same lull that he did at the U. I think most MU fans would agree that he inherited a pretty good situation. It will be 2 or 3 years before you really see what he can do with the program.
I don't think Haith had a "lull" at the U, I think the U is one of the bottom feeding bball programs out there. No support from the admin, and they are a football school in a bball conference.

Not sure what the future with Haith will bring, but the signs are pointing up, and he has won some cred with me with the team's performance last year.
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:01 AM   #69
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If the team makes a deep run in the NCAA tourney next year, and makes a final four in the next 4 years or so, Norfolk State will be a fading memory.
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I don't think recruits really give two shits about Norfolk State. Teams lose early in the tourney every year and land top guys. Shit UCLA was terrible this year and landed a top class. I knew they are UCLA, but still.



I'm anxious to see if Haith gets into the same lull that he did at the U. I think most MU fans would agree that he inherited a pretty good situation. It will be 2 or 3 years before you really see what he can do with the program.
I'm saying its going to stick with you guys (the fans) for a while, a few late nights playing the what if game. Probably going to take at least a sweet sixteen run to really get the taste out of your mouth. I've been there before and as much as I enjoy schadenfreude I do empathize. And yeah, you do have to give coaches some time to show what they can do to develop their players.
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Old 04-17-2012, 08:53 AM   #70
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I'm saying its going to stick with you guys (the fans) for a while, a few late nights playing the what if game. Probably going to take at least a sweet sixteen run to really get the taste out of your mouth. I've been there before and as much as I enjoy schadenfreude I do empathize. And yeah, you do have to give coaches some time to show what they can do to develop their players.
I'm over it. Shit happens.
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:02 AM   #71
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I'm saying its going to stick with you guys (the fans) for a while, a few late nights playing the what if game. Probably going to take at least a sweet sixteen run to really get the taste out of your mouth. I've been there before and as much as I enjoy schadenfreude I do empathize. And yeah, you do have to give coaches some time to show what they can do to develop their players.
Not at all. Better times are ahead at MU.
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:43 AM   #72
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I'm saying its going to stick with you guys (the fans) for a while, a few late nights playing the what if game. Probably going to take at least a sweet sixteen run to really get the taste out of your mouth. I've been there before and as much as I enjoy schadenfreude I do empathize. And yeah, you do have to give coaches some time to show what they can do to develop their players.
Now that the tournament is over, it's basically out of sight, out of mind. Not going to lie, it hurt a lot at the time and while watching the tournament play out (especially with the blowing up of Missouri's bracket).

But the excitement level for next basketball season is high, as is football.

That seems to be the perspective of most of my friends, too. No sense dwelling on it, not when there are other things to be excited for coming up (like football).

One of the benefits of being competitive in both sports, I think... you never have TOO long to dwell on anything from the other sport.
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Now that the tournament is over, it's basically out of sight, out of mind. Not going to lie, it hurt a lot at the time and while watching the tournament play out (especially with the blowing up of Missouri's bracket).

But the excitement level for next basketball season is high, as is football.

That seems to be the perspective of most of my friends, too. No sense dwelling on it, not when there are other things to be excited for coming up (like football).

One of the benefits of being competitive in both sports, I think... you never have TOO long to dwell on anything from the other sport.
I agree. It hurt like hell at the time, and I pretty much skipped the rest of the tourney, but the SEC move, the new unis, the excitement over the coming football season, and the rising level of excitement for year 2 of Haith's tenure have me looking forward and not back.
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I don't think Haith had a "lull" at the U, I think the U is one of the bottom feeding bball programs out there. No support from the admin, and they are a football school in a bball conference.

Not sure what the future with Haith will bring, but the signs are pointing up, and he has won some cred with me with the team's performance last year.
Agree - Haith never had a "lull" at Miami. He just never got over the hump.

He didn't have to build the Mizzou program from scratch, he just had to keep the ship going and not **** up. He obviously did much better than that, and now he has tons of recruiting momentum and can sell a winning program, passionate fanbase, great facilities, new conference, etc. He never had much to sell at Miami.

It sure seems like other fanbases are a lot more concerned about Haith going forward than Mizzou fans are. Personally, from the improvement I saw in our players, the intelligent set plays, the calculated substitutions and timeouts, and the recruiting momentum we have now, I have very little doubt about Haith's ability at this point.
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PG - Pressey (25 mins) /Dixon (15 mins)
SG - Bell (20 mins) /Brown (12 mins) / Dixon (8 mins)
SF - Ross (25 mins) /Brown (10 mins) /Webster-Chan (5 mins)
PF - Bowers (20 mins) /Criswell (14 mins) /Jankovic (6 mins)
C - Oriakhi (28 mins) / Bowers (7 mins) / Criswell (5 mins)

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