*****Official 2012 CP Mock Draft Thread*****

[Pestilence]

First Round
1 Indianapolis Colts (Bo's Pelini) - Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford
2 St. Louis Rams (Starbucks Fan) - Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State
3 Minnesota Vikings (Marco Polo) - Matt Kalil, OT, Southern California
4 Cleveland Browns (DaKCManAP) - Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor
5 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Sfheic) - Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU
6 Washington Redskins (Archie Bunker) - Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M
7 Jacksonville Jaguars (Direckshun) - Melvin Ingram, DE, South Carolina
8 Miami Dolphins (BossChief) - Courtney Upshaw, OLB/DE, Alabama
9 Carolina Panthers (Dj's left nut) - Quinton Couples, DE, North Carolina
10 Buffalo Bills (htismaqe) - Whitney Mercilus, DE, Illinois
11 Kansas City Chiefs (Pestilence) - Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama
12 Seattle Seahawks (SNR) - Luke Kuechly, LB, Boston College
13 Arizona Cardinals (DeezNutz) - David DeCastro, G, Stanford
14 Dallas Cowboys (ChiefsCountry) - Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama
15 Philadelphia Eagles (doomy3) - Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State
16 New York Jets (Lono) - Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame
17 Cincinnati Bengals (f/OAK) (Sfheic) - Janoris Jenkins, CB, North Alabama
18 San Diego Chargers (doomy3) - Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa
19 Chicago Bears (DaKCManAP) - Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford
20 Tennessee Titans (Marco Polo) - Cordy Glenn, G, Georgia
21 Cincinnati Bengals (Sfheic) - Mark Barron, S, Alabama
22 Cleveland Browns (f/ATL) (DaKCManAP) - Nick Perry, DE/OLB, Southern California
23 Detroit Lions (Dj's left nut) - Mike Adams, OT, Ohio State
24 Pittsburgh Steelers (Archie Bunker) - Dont'a Hightower, LB, Alabama
25 Denver Broncos (DeezNutz) - Devon Still, DT, Penn State
26 Houston Texans (Lono) - Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor
27 New England Patriots (f/NO) (ChiefsCountry) - Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis
28 Green Bay Packers (SNR) - Michael Brockers, DE, LSU
29 Baltimore Ravens (Bo's Pelini) - Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin
30 San Francisco 49ers (Pestilence) - Stephen Hill, WR, Georgia Tech
31 New England Patriots (ChiefsCountry) - Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers
32 New York Giants (htismaqe) - James Brown, OL, Troy

Second Round
33. Rams (Starbucks Fan) - Zach Brown, LB, North Carolina
34. Colts (Bo's Pelini) - Reuben Randle, WR, LSU
35. Vikings (Marco Polo) - Josh Robinson, CB, Central Florida
36. Buccaneers (Sfheic) - Stephen Gilmore, CB, South Carolina
37. Browns (DaKCManAP) - Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina
38. Jaguars (Direckshun) - Orson Charles, TE, Georgia
39. Redskins (Archie Bunker) - Alfonzo Dennard, CB, Nebraska
40. Panthers (DJ’s Left Nut) - Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson
41. Dolphins (BossChief) - Nick Foles, QB, Arizona
42. Bills (htismaqe) - Lavonte David, LB, Nebraska
43. Seahawks (SNR) - Andre Branch, DE, Clemson
44. Chiefs (Pestilence) - Kelechi Osemele, OT, Iowa State
45. Cowboys (ChiefsCountry) - Alameda Ta'amu, NT, Washington
46. Eagles (doomy3) - Brock Osweiler, QB, Arizona State
47. Jets (Lono) - Harrison Smith, S, Notre Dame
48. Patriots (ChiefsCountry) - Vinny Curry, OLB/DE, Marshall
49. Chargers (doomy3) - Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford
50. Bears (DaKCManAP) - Dwayne Allan, TE, Clemson
51. Eagles (doomy3) - Markelle Martin, S, Oklahoma State
52. Titans (Marco Polo) - Kevin Zeitler, G, Wisconsin
53. Bengals (Sfeihc) - Lamar Miller, RB, Miami (Fl.)
54. Lions (dj’s left nut) - Chase Minnifield, CB, Virginia
55. Falcons (BossChief) - David Wilson, RB, Virginia Tech
56. Steelers (Archie Bunker) - Amini Silatolu, G, Midwestern State
57. Broncos (Deez Nutz) - Doug Martin, RB, Boise State
58. Texans (Lono) - Josh Chapman, DT, Alabama
59. Saints (Direckshun) - Jerel Worthy, DT, Michigan State
60. Packers (SNR) - Jared Crick, DE, Nebraska
61. Ravens (Bo’s Pelini) - Shea McClellin, LB, Boise State
62. 49ers (Pestilence) - Jayron Hosley, CB/PR, Virginia Tech
63. Patriots (ChiefsCountry) Dwight Jones, WR, North Carolina
64. Giants (htismaqe) Ronnell Lewis, DE, Oklahoma

Third Round
65. Colts (Bo’s Pelini) Chris Polk, RB, Washington
66. Rams (Starbucks Fan) Ryan Miller, G, Colorado
67. Vikings (Marco Polo) Brandon Brooks, G, Miami (Ohio)
68. Browns (DaKCMan AP) Zebrie Sanders, OT, Florida State
69. Buccaneers (Stefic) Bobbie Massie, OT, Mississippi
70. Redskins (Archie Bunker) Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami (Fl)
71. Jaguars (Direckshun) Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa
72. Dolphins (Boss Chief) Nicholas Jean-Baptiste, DT/NT, Baylor
73. Bears (DaKCMan AP) Chandler Jones, DE, Syracuse
74. Bills (htismaqe) Brian Quick, WR, Appalachain State
75. Chiefs (Pestilence) Philip Blake, OC, Baylor
76. Seahawks (SNR) - Ladarius Green, TE, Louisiana-Lafayette
77. Eagles (doomy3) - Vontaze Burfict, ILB, Arizona State
78. Chargers (doomy3) - Kendall Reyes, DT, Connecticut
79. Bears (DaKCMan AP) - Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin
80. Cardinals (Deez Nutz) - Mitchell Schwartz, OT, California
81. Cowboys (ChiefsCountry) Brandon Weeden, QB, Oklahoma State
82. Titans (Marco Polo) Bobby Wagner, LB, Utah State
83. Bengals (Sfeihc) Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma
84. Falcons (BossChief) Jack Baquette, DE Arkansas
85. Lions (DJ’s left nut) Trumaine Johnson, CB, Montana
86. Steelers (Archie Bunker) LaMichael James, RB, Oregon
87. Broncos (Deez Nutz) Brandon Taylor, S, LSU
88. Texans (Lono) Jamell Flemming, CB, Oklahoma
89. Saints (Direckshun) Sean Spence, LB, Miami (Fl)
90. Packers (SNR) Bruce Irvin, OLB, West Virginia
91. Ravens (Bo’s Pelini) Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia
92. 49ers (Pestilence) Juron Criner, WR, Arizona
93. Patriots (ChiefsCountry) Ben Jones, C, Georgia
94. Giants (htismaqe) Bernard Pierce, RB, Temple

Fourth Round
95. Rams (Starbucks Fan) Derek Wolfe, DE/DT, Cincinnati
96. Colts (Bo's Pelini) Michael Egnew, TE, Missouri
97. Vikings (Marco Polo) Marvin Jones, WR, California
98. Eagles (doomy3) Michael Brewster, C, Ohio State
99. Browns (DaKCMan AP) Brandon Washington, G, Miami
100. Jaguars (Direckshun) Levy Adcock, OT, Oklahoma State
101. Redskins (Archie Bunker) George Iloka, S, Boise State
102. Dolphins (Boss Chief) Andrew Darko, OT, Florida State
103. Panthers (DJ's Left Nut) Brandon Mosley, OT, Auburn
104. Bills (htismaqe) Nate Potter, OT, Boise State
105. Seahawks (SNR) Kirk Cousins, QB, Michigan State
106. Chiefs (Pestlience) Jonathan Massaquoi, OLB/DE, Troy
107. Jets (lono) Cam Johnson, LB, Virginia
108. Redskins (Archie Bunker) Matt McCants, OT, UAB
109. Chargers (doomy3) Chris Givens, WR, Wake Forest
110. Bears (DaKCMan AP) Dwight Bentley, CB, Louisiana
111. Cardinals (Deez Nutz) Casey Hayward, CB, Vanderbilt
112. Cowboys (ChiefsCountry) Tank Carder, LB, TCU
113. Eagles (doomy3) Mychal Kendricks, LB, California
114. Titans (Marco Polo) Frank Alexander, DE, Oklahoma
115. Bengals (Sfeihc) Mike Martin, DT, Michigan.
116. Lions (DJ's Left Nut) Nigel Bradham, ILB, Florida State.
117. Browns (DaKCMan AP) Vick Ballard, RB, Mississippi State.
118. Steelers (Archie Bunker) Josh Norman, CB, Coastal Carolina
119. Broncos (Deez Nutz) Emmanuel Acho, OLB, Texas
120. Texans (lono) Tony Bergstrom, G, Utah
121. Saints (Direckshun) Antonio Allen, S, South Carolina
122. Packers (SNR) Quentin Saulsberry, C, Mississippi State
123. Bills (htismaqe/Nightfyre) Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State
124. 49ers (Pestlience) Lucas Nix, OG, Pittsburgh
125. Patriots (ChiefsCountry) Aaron Henry, S, Wisconsin
126. Giants (Nightfyre) DeQuan Menzie, DB, Alabama

Fifth Round
127. Colts (Bo's Pelini) Billy Wynn, DE/DT, Boise State
128. Broncos (Deez Nutz) Coryell Judie, CB, Texas A&M
129. Vikings (Marco Polo) AJ Jenkins, WR, Illinois
130. Browns (DaKCMan AP) Josh Kaddu, OLB, Oregon
131. Buccaneers (stefhic) Isaiah Pead, RB, Cincinnati
132. Redskins (Archie Bunker) Robert Turbin, RB, Utah State
133. Jaguars (Direckshun) Travis Lewis, LB, Oklahoma
134. Panthers (DJ's Left Nut) Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas
135. Bills (Nightfyre) Audie Cole, LB, North Carolina State
136. Dolphins (Boss Chief) T.Y. Hilton, WR, Florida International
137. Chiefs (Pestlience) Trenton Robinson, S, Michigan State
138. Bills (Nightfyre) David Molk, C, Michigan
139. Raiders (Starbuck's Fan) Ryan Steed, CB, Furman
140. Chargers (doomy3) Kyle Wilber, OLB, Wake Forest
141. Bears (DaKCMan AP) Tauren Poole, RB, Tennessee
142. Cardinals (Deez Nutz) William Vlachos, C, Alabama
143. Cowboys (ChiefsCountry) Joe Adams, WR, Arkansas
144. Eagles (doomy3) Tyrone Crawford, DE, Boise State
145. Jets (lono) Russell Wilson, QB, Wisconsin
146. Titans (Marco Polo) Garth Gerhart, C, Arizona State
147. Bengals (Sfeihc) Senio Kelemete, G, Washington
148. Falcons (Boss Chief) Shaun Prater, CB, Iowa
149. Lions (DJ's Left Nut) Adam Gettis, C, Iowa
150. Steelers (Archie Bunker) Hebron Fangupo, NT, BYU
151. Broncos (Deez Nutz) J.K. Schaffer, LB, Cincinnati
152. Texans (lono) Brandon Lindsey, LB, Pittsburgh
153. Saints (Direckshun) Demario Davis, LB, Arkansas State
154. Packers (SNR) Omar Bolden, CB, Arizona State
155. Ravens (Bo's Pelini) Jeff Allen, OL, Illinois
156. 49ers (Pestlience) Trevor Guyton, DE, California
157. Bengals (Sfeihc) Janzen Jackson, S, McNeese State
158. Giants (Nightfyre) BJ Coleman, QB, Chattanooga

Sixth Round
159. Rams (Starbuck's Fan) Ronnie Hillman, RB, San Diego State
160. Eagles (doomy3) Matt Reynolds, OT, BYU
161. Redskins (Archie Bunker) Kheeston Randall, DE, Texas
162. Buccaneers (Sfheic) James-Michael Johnson, LB, Nevada
163. Vikings (Marco Polo) Blake Gideon, S, Texas
164. Jaguars (Direckshun) Austin Davis, QB, Southern Miss
165. Cardinals (Deez Nutz) Gerell Robinson, WR, Arizona State
166. Panthers (DJ's Left Nut) Jeff Fuller, WR, Texas A&M
167. Saints (Direckshun) Winston Guy, S, Kentucky
168. Bills (Nightfyre) Ryan Lindley, QB, San Diego State
169. Seahawks (SNR) Terrance Ganaway, RB, Baylor
170. Chiefs (Pestlience) Asa Jackson, CB, Cal Poly
171. Chargers (doomy3) Cyrus Gray, RB, Texas A&M
172. Bears (DaKCMan AP) Jerry Franklin, LB, Arkansas
173. Cardinals (Deez Nutz) Jacquies Smith, LB, Missouri
174. Cowboys (ChiefsCountry) Will Blackwell, G, LSU
175. Browns (DaKCMan AP) Chris Rainey, RB, Florida
176. Broncos (Deez Nutz) Kellen Moore, QB, Boise State
177. Raiders (Starbuck's Fan) Marc Tyler, RB, USC
178. Titans (Marco Polo) Tim Benford, WR, Tennessee Tech
179. Bengals (Sfheic) Danny Trevathan, LB, Kentucky
180. Falcons (BossChief) Bryan Anger, P, California
181. Steelers (Archie Bunker) Jarius Wright, WR, Arkansas
182. Colts (Bo's Pelini) Cliff Harris, CB, Oregon
183. Texans (lono) Jack Crawford, DE, Penn State
184. Dolphins (BossChief) Delano Howell, S, Stanford
185. Packers (SNR) Markus Zusevics, OT, Iowa
186. Ravens (Bo's Pelini) Marcel Jones, OT, Nebraska
187. 49ers (Pestlience) Jerrell Young, S, South Florida
188. Eagles (doomy3) T.J. Graham, WR, North Carolina State
189. Giants (Nightfyre) Chris Owusu, WR, Stanford

Seventh Round
190. Colts (Bo’s Pelini) Terrell Manning, LB, North Carolina State
191. Rams (Starbuck’s Fan) Ben Bojicic, C, Bowling Green
192. Vikings (Marco Polo) Sean Richardson, S, Vanderbilt
193. Browns (DaKCMan AP) Tramain Thomas, S, Arkansas
194. Buccaneers (Sfheic) Donte Paige-Moss, DE, North Carolina
195. Redskins (Archie Bunker) Najee Goode, ILB, West Virginia
196. Colts (Bo’s Pelini) Adrien Robinson, TE, Cincinnati
197. Dolphins (BossChief) Neiko Thorpe, S, Auburn
198. Panthers (DJ’s Left Nut) Marcus Forston, DT, Miami (FL)
199. Bills (Nightfyre) Elvis Akpla, WR, Montana State
200. Chiefs (Pestlience) Akiem Hicks, NT, Regina
201. Lions (DJ’s Left Nut) Olivier Vernon, DE, Miami (FL)
202. Bears (DaKCMan AP) Jaye Howard, DT, Florida
203. Cardinals (Deez Nutz) Christian Thompson, DB, South Carolina State
204. Cowboys (ChiefsCountry) James Hanna, TE, Oklahoma
205. Vikings (Marco Polo) Tahir Whitehead, LB, Temple
206. Packers (SNR) Chandler Harnish, QB, Northern Illinois
207. Seahawks (SNR) DaJohn Harris, DT, USC
208. Chargers (doomy3) Micah Pellerin, CB, Hampton
209. Titans (Marco Polo) Jordan Bernstine, S, Iowa
210. Jaguars (Direckshun) Evan Rodriguez, TE, Temple
211. Falcons (Boss Chief) Josh Oglesby, OT, Wisconsin
212. Lions (DJ’s Left Nut) Josh LeRibeus, G, SMU
213. Steelers (Archie Bunker) Dominique Hamilton, DE, Missouri
214. Jets (Lono) Mike Harris, CB, Florida State
215. Texans (Lono) Justin Bethel, S, Presbyterian
216. Saints (Direckshun) Kelcie McCray, S, Arkansas State
217. Packers (SNR) Jeremy Lane, CB, Northwestern State
218. Ravens (Bo’s Pelini) Case Keenum, QB, Houston
219. 49ers (Pestlience) Nick Provo, TE, Syracuse
220. Chiefs (Pestlience) Blake DeChristopher, OT, Virginia Tech
221. Giants (Nightfyre) Drake Dunsmore, TE, Northwestern
222. Steelers (Archie Bunker) Aaron Corp, QB, Richmond
223. Packers (SNR) Shawn Loiseau, LB, Merrimack
224. Jets (Lono) Adonis Thomas, RB, Toledo
225. Packers (SNR) Daryl Richardson, RB, Abilene Christian
226. Jets (Lono) Matt Veldman TE, North Dakota State
227. Browns (DaKCMan AP) DeAngelo Peterson, TE, LSU
228. Steelers (Archie Bunker) Chase Ford, TE, Miami
229. Browns (DaKCMan AP) Keith Tandy, CB, West Virginia
300. Steelers (Archie Bunker) Greg Zuerlein, K, Missouri Western
301. Falcons (BossChief) Carmen Messina, LB, New Mexico
302. Chargers (doomy3) Miles Burris, LB, San Diego State
303. Bills (Nightfyre) Randy Bullock, K, Texas A&M
304. Rams (Starbuck’s Fan) Shaun Powell, P, Flordia State
305. Colts (Bo’s Pelini) Ryan Davis, LB, Bethune-Cookman

[Pestilence]

Originally Posted by jd1020

I can see that then. I still like having a top talent in the draft at T blocking for Forte and Charles over having a meh player blocking for AP and Charles.

Another thing about drafting Richardson would mean pretty much eliminating Charles. Which may not be a bad thing because Charles might not be the Charles we knew, ever again. Someone like Richardson is someone you don't have on the bench.

Not true. You can still give Richardson 20-25 touches a game and Charles 15-20.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by DBoweShow

I don't see why you need to eliminate Charles. Charles is someone you don't have on the bench. Why can't you just get them both around 15 touches in a game. I see nothing wrong with that. IMO

I guess I just don't see the sense in drafting an AP type RB to split carries.

Even last year when AP only played 12 games he was averaging 19 touches a game.

Vikes #2 who started the rest and played in all 16 averaged 8. If you take out the games he didn't start he was averaging 4 touches a game with AP healthy.

Now, Charles is better than Gerhart but hes not a 3 down back and sitting an AP type runner to accommodate someone else, even if it is Charles, just doesn't make sense to me.

[the Talking Can]

you can't take a ****ing guard at #11

I don't care if he has lazer beam eyes and a 90 foot cock that doubles as an apartment complex for pets...


never...****ing...ever

you: "hey, what's KC's biggest need?"
me: "QB"
you: "hey, the best option at #11 is a guard"
me: "this is the button for apocalypse...I'm pushing it, nice knowing y'all"

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Not true. You can still give Richardson 20-25 touches a game and Charles 15-20.

Are we going to be the Denver Broncos now?

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

you can't take a ****ing guard at #11

I don't care if he has lazer beam eyes and a 90 foot cock that doubles as an apartment complex for pets...


never...****ing...ever

you: "hey, what's KC's biggest need?"
me: "QB"
you: "hey, the best option at #11 is a guard"
me: "this is the button for apocalypse...I'm pushing it, nice knowing y'all"

A couple of guards were taken at #17 (Steve Hutchinson, Mike Iupati) and #23 (Davin Joseph, Danny Watkins) and Chris Naeole was taken #10 overall.

It's a weak draft this year and DeCastro is a great prospect. I wouldn't be upset with him at #11.

[Pestilence]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Are we going to be the Denver Broncos now?

Do you understand the difference between touches and carries?

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Do you understand the difference between touches and carries?

Do you understand the ratio of rushes to catches RBs get?

The Broncos averaged 34 rushes a game.

Taking the best reception years of both Charles and Peterson and adding the ratio of rushes:catches to fit the 15-20 range for Charles and 20-25 range for Peterson you are looking at 30-36 rushes a game and about 5 catches combined.

[DBoweShow]

I don't personally see how Richardson and Charles splitting touches/carries is a bad thing at all. Keeps them both healthier and fresh, so when and if we can sneak into the playoffs with Castle/or be a top 5 offense with Manning, we have to stud running backs who are both fresh and ready to run in the 3 games in the postseason.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

A couple of guards were taken at #17 (Steve Hutchinson, Mike Iupati) and #23 (Davin Joseph, Danny Watkins) and Chris Naeole was taken #10 overall.

It's a weak draft this year and DeCastro is a great prospect. I wouldn't be upset with him at #11.

i'm not drafting the least important player on the field in the first round (without trading down), unless my team is set everywhere else...guards are the easiest position in football to find in the draft...and you don't need all-pro guards anyways...unless your QB and RB both suck ass, in which case you should be drafting a QB or RB

for a team with our needs, it's a giant ****ing waste...not to mention it just makes me sick on principal, a team that won't draft QBs but will draft guards..


*edit*

I'm not trying to be argumentative in this thread or derail it...this my second favorite thread of the year...just blowing off QB-related steam which sprays indiscriminately...

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i'm not drafting the least important player on the field in the first round (without trading down), unless my team is set everywhere else...guards are the easiest position in football to find in the draft...and you don't need all-pro guards anyways...unless your QB and RB both suck ass, in which case you should be drafting a QB or RB

for a team with our needs, it's a giant ****ing waste...not to mention it just makes me sick on principal, a team that won't draft QBs but will draft guards..

Disagree. A big, strong guard who can block giant tackles that is also athletic enough to pull and smart enough to pick up blitzes can open up the offense quite a bit. Sure, you can find guards late. I also think you can find RBs late. In a normal draft DeCastro wouldn't need to be taken this high, but it's a very weak draft.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Not true. You can still give Richardson 20-25 touches a game and Charles 15-20.

You do realize that you're talking about an offense that has less balance than the 2010 offense, right?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Are we going to be the Denver Broncos now?

I think with the thought of Matt Cassel being the starter fresh in their minds, that's the only option people see.

Myself, I'd rather not take Richardson...

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by SNR

Did Direckshun forget to PM him?

Maybe Direckshun is the dirty one.

Nope. Check his wall.

[Direckshun]

To be fair, Cassel's actually a halfway decent QB when the run game is on.

Richardson/Charles ensures that it's on for all 16 games.

You'll get nothing but 27/7 seasons out of him with that kind of consistency running the ball.

[Direckshun]

Seahawks badly need a QB or a DE. Both positions have been overdrafted so far.

SNR's in a bad place.

If he were comfortable with their character concerns, I'd go with either of the stud corners here.

Kuechly wouldn't be too bad of a fit, either. And there's always DeCastro, since Robert Gallery sucks the penis.

It just sucks SNR has to settle for this kind of bullshit.