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Old 10-05-2008, 08:31 AM  
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The flawed logic of Mizzou fans

You say tradition doesn't matter, yet you're so excited about ending your 30-year losing streak in Lincoln.

You say Bo Pelini sucks, yet Gary Pinkel was 9-14 during his first two seasons at Mizzou. Many Mizzou fans wanted him fired.

Something doesn't add up.

I'm not crying in my beer over Nebraska's loss last night. I told you how the game would unfold. I don't feel your pain. You can't get it all back in two years.

Tradition is the reason you're so excited. You want what Nebraska, Texas and Oklahoma have. You are getting a small taste of it. A national title and a Heisman this season would only be one step. You must sustain similar success over decades.

I think Kansas State and Colorado have more tradition than Mizzou. K-State recently won a conference title. Colorado has a national title and a Heisman.

Pelini will need several seasons to turn around the program - just like Gary Pinkel and Mark Mangino needed. Nebraska has no talent on either side of the ball. The defense isn't fast enough to blitz effectively. The offense is overrated, and the play calling sucks. I hate some of their pass plays.

It's a process. Instant gratification wasn't going to happen. You know that from your own experience.

Last year's Huskers gave up and made tons of mistakes. This year's Huskers make mistakes because they're too aggressive. I'll take the aggression.

Callahan never would've apologized to the state like Pelini did last night.

Think about the things I have mentioned here.
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Old 10-06-2008, 06:53 PM   #256
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Uhhh OU does win now last time I checked.
Pretty much my very point.
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Old 10-06-2008, 06:59 PM   #257
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Mizzou has a darn good tradition the mid 80's and 90s killed alot of it off.
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Old 10-06-2008, 07:00 PM   #258
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Old 10-06-2008, 07:06 PM   #259
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we shouldn't let it die till nebraska gets ran by the table in the big xii
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Old 10-06-2008, 07:24 PM   #260
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OU is happy to talk about their past. However, I wouldn't trade the Huskers' tradition for the Sooners'. They can keep their probation violations.

I'm not emphasizing tradition because NU is down. The point is Mizzou isn't as great as their fans think. Mizzou fans made Saturday's game more dramatic than it was going to be. Right now, Nebraska is where Mizzou usually has been.
Oklahoma was down for a long time, and it wasn't their tradition that brought them back. It was Bob Stoops. If Nebraska ever makes a comeback, it won't be because of their tradition. It will be because they hire a great coach who turns around a terrible program.

If Bob Stoops had gone to Iowa State, Iowa State would be a powerhouse. If Oklahoma had hired Bill Callahan, they would be where Nebraska is now. Nebraska's tradition may get a coach to answer the phone when the AD calls looking for a new coach, but that window is closing as well. If Pellini doesn't work out, all bets are off. UNL is dangerously close to becoming a resume stain.
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Old 10-06-2008, 07:36 PM   #261
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I don't recall OU being "down" for any extended period. They weren't good from '96 to '98 when they had John Blake and Howard Schnellenberger. OU is the only school with 4 coaches with more than 100 wins. Bud Wilkinson, Barry Switzer, Stoops and some dude from the '20's.
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Old 10-06-2008, 07:38 PM   #262
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I don't recall OU being "down" for any extended period. They weren't good from '96 to '98 when they had John Blake and Howard Schnellenberger. OU is the only school with 4 coaches with more than 100 wins. Bud Wilkinson, Barry Switzer, Stoops and some dude from the '20's.
They were down by OU standards in the 90's.
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Old 10-06-2008, 07:50 PM   #263
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I don't recall OU being "down" for any extended period. They weren't good from '96 to '98 when they had John Blake and Howard Schnellenberger. OU is the only school with 4 coaches with more than 100 wins. Bud Wilkinson, Barry Switzer, Stoops and some dude from the '20's.
1994: 6-6
1995: 5-5-1
1996: 3-8
1997: 4-8
1998: 5-6

That's not that long ago, and you forgot how far down they really were. I'm guessing that you were old enough to have followed college football at the time, too. The same thing is happening to Nebraska in reverse. It was that same period of time when Nebraska was a factor in a national sense. Now kids are supposed to remember that Nebraska was good 10+ years ago...when they were 7 years old?
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Old 10-06-2008, 07:56 PM   #264
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Oklahoma was down for a long time, and it wasn't their tradition that brought them back. It was Bob Stoops. If Nebraska ever makes a comeback, it won't be because of their tradition. It will be because they hire a great coach who turns around a terrible program.

If Bob Stoops had gone to Iowa State, Iowa State would be a powerhouse. If Oklahoma had hired Bill Callahan, they would be where Nebraska is now. Nebraska's tradition may get a coach to answer the phone when the AD calls looking for a new coach, but that window is closing as well. If Pellini doesn't work out, all bets are off. UNL is dangerously close to becoming a resume stain.
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Old 10-06-2008, 08:50 PM   #265
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Old 10-06-2008, 09:20 PM   #266
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I don't think most Mizzou fans are trying to convince anyone we have the tradition of some of the programs listed (maybe I am missing something?) but obviously have no problem feeling like we have the quality team we have.
Exactly.

Find me a post where a Mizzou fans is crowing about their "tradition."

To be fair, Mizzou does seem to be beginning a tradition of anually pushing in Nebraska's shit.
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Old 10-07-2008, 06:28 PM   #267
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:38 PM   #269
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You couldn't let it go.

I think Pelini will need four years to right the ship. I think it will be at least year three before he hands out blackshirts. I'm glad I won't be home on Saturday to watch them play Texas Tech.
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:44 PM   #270
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You couldn't let it go.

I think Pelini will need four years to right the ship. I think it will be at least year three before he hands out blackshirts. I'm glad I won't be home on Saturday to watch them play Texas Tech.
Sweet, one way or another we'll get to see this thread bumped for another four years.
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