What's going to happen to our offense when AS, Solari, and company are gone?

chiefsfan1963 · 01-05-2006, 12:15 PM

Just curious. Looking at all the news it looks like CP is going to clean house! With Vermiel's departure he has decided not to continue with the direction the team was going. Our offense has been in the Top 3 the last 5 years and our D appears to have improved and both would continue to improve next year with some additional talent added either through free agency and the upcoming draft.

With the upcoming massive changes in our coaching staff, it could prove costly next year to the Chiefs resulting in the team taking a large step back despite the talent pool we have.

New coach, new philosophy, new staff, new everything! The lack of consistency could be very detrimental to the players.

Promoting AS to the HC seems to be the smartest move right now and it will give us the best chance to be very competitive next year and beyond. If we don't choose this direction, we could see more frustration for another 5 years!

This is not the time to pull the rip cord. Why give up draft picks now when what we need most is good young potential franchise players to develop for the future?

Thoughts?

jspchief · 01-05-2006, 12:16 PM

My guess is the 8 pro bolwers we have on offense are going to instantly become inept.

Mr. Laz · 01-05-2006, 12:17 PM

what kind worries me is that Herm Edward might clean house on the offensive side of the ball and actually KEEP some of the guys on defense.

siberian khatru · 01-05-2006, 12:19 PM

Everyone just assumes that Al Saunders would be a good head coach. Just like it was simple for Gunther to move from DC to HC, so we could keep that 90s defense intact. All of a sudden, HC responsibilities triggered the worst of Gun's personality tics. He starts diagramming seating charts at 3 in the morning.

the Talking Can · 01-05-2006, 12:19 PM

Solari, hopefully, isn't going anywhere.

FringeNC · 01-05-2006, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief

My guess is the 8 pro bolwers we have on offense are going to instantly become inept.

Have Gun remained in charge, do you think we would have had the best offense in football over the past 5 years? Just asking...

You make sound as if coaching doesn't matter at all....

jspchief · 01-05-2006, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

what kind worries me is that Herm Edward might clean house on the offensive side of the ball and actually KEEP some of the guys on defense.

Yea. It's perfectly reasonable to think that an experienced NFL coach would "clean house" on a top 2 offense, while clinging to a #32 defense.

Mr. Laz · 01-05-2006, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Everyone just assumes that Al Saunders would be a good head coach

i don't think everyone is assuming that at all.

people hope that al saunders can maintain the offense while changing it up on defense.

are you assuming that Herm edwards would be able to maintain our current offense?

hope ≠ assume

Mr. Laz · 01-05-2006, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief

Yea. It's perfectly reasonable to think that an experienced NFL coach would "clean house" on a top 2 offense, while clinging to a #32 defense.

i think that if Herm edwards doesn't bring Donnie henderson with him there is an extremely good chance that Edwards take Carl's suggestion to keep gunther cunningham.

jspchief · 01-05-2006, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC

Have Gun remained in charge, do you think we would have had the best offense in football over the past 5 years? Just asking...

You make sound as if coaching doesn't matter at all....

You're jumping to conclusions if that's what you think I'm saying.

Do I think Gun would have built this offense? Of course not.

Do I think that an offense with 8 pro-bowlers on it is going to crumble with a new coaching situation? No ****ing way.

If this offense begins to falter, it will be due to age, not coaching. It won't take a genious to move the ball when working with 3 pro-bowl O-linemen, 2 Pro-bowl RBs, 1 pro-bowl QB, and a pro-bowl TE. Will we continue to be #1 in the league? Maybe not. but I don't think we're just going to start sucking because Saunders is gone.

jiveturkey · 01-05-2006, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

i think that if Herm edwards doesn't bring Donnie henderson with him there is an extremely good chance that Edwards take Carl's suggestion to keep gunther cunningham.

Even if he keeps Gun I would think that the rest of the DV Defensive Clowns would be gone and Gun would be able to pick his own assistants.

I guess we are now in an assumtion based debate.

Your turn.

siberian khatru · 01-05-2006, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

i don't think everyone is assuming that at all.

people hope that al saunders can maintain the offense while changing it up on defense.

are you assuming that Herm edwards would be able to maintain our current offense?

hope ≠ assume

I think that's exactly what people are assuming -- or overlooking. That HC duties are different and they sometimes change people. Many coordinators have failed as HC (and many have succeeded).

"people hope that al saunders can maintain the offense while changing it up on defense." Exactly why Gunther was promoted -- just slide on over to a different chair, all the strengths remain, all the weaknesses improve. Simple. Continuity.

I'm not assuming anything about Herm. But as others have stated here and elsewhere, it would be a blinding act of stupidity and hubris on both Herm's and Carl's part to scrap one of the league's best offenses while maintaining its worst defense.

jiveturkey · 01-05-2006, 12:28 PM

It's possible that a new 0-Cord would allow Trent to call his owns plays from time to time instead of taking time outs all of the time.

This is of course another assumtion.

jspchief · 01-05-2006, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

i think that if Herm edwards doesn't bring Donnie henderson with him there is an extremely good chance that Edwards take Carl's suggestion to keep gunther cunningham.

Ok. It's still a leap in logic to say we're going to clean house on the offense.

You might as well brace yourself for us keeping most of our current defensive personnell, at least for '06. This team has always been on a two year cycle in terms of FA signings, so any changes are likely going to have to come from draft picks and developed bench players.

Branden Albert's Huge Balls · 01-05-2006, 12:30 PM

I hope Trent Green is smart enough to override Herm Edwards when it's 3rd and 3 from the 30 yard line and actually run a play.

01-05-2006, 12:15 PM
chiefsfan1963 Veteran Join Date: Oct 2001 Casino cash: $3350	What's going to happen to our offense when AS, Solari, and company are gone? Just curious. Looking at all the news it looks like CP is going to clean house! With Vermiel's departure he has decided not to continue with the direction the team was going. Our offense has been in the Top 3 the last 5 years and our D appears to have improved and both would continue to improve next year with some additional talent added either through free agency and the upcoming draft. With the upcoming massive changes in our coaching staff, it could prove costly next year to the Chiefs resulting in the team taking a large step back despite the talent pool we have. New coach, new philosophy, new staff, new everything! The lack of consistency could be very detrimental to the players. Promoting AS to the HC seems to be the smartest move right now and it will give us the best chance to be very competitive next year and beyond. If we don't choose this direction, we could see more frustration for another 5 years! This is not the time to pull the rip cord. Why give up draft picks now when what we need most is good young potential franchise players to develop for the future? Thoughts?
Posts: 1,914

01-05-2006, 12:16 PM	#2
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $41631	My guess is the 8 pro bolwers we have on offense are going to instantly become inept. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
Posts: 22,175

01-05-2006, 12:19 PM	#4
siberian khatru 21st Century Schizoid Fan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Gates of Delirium Casino cash: $87809	Everyone just assumes that Al Saunders would be a good head coach. Just like it was simple for Gunther to move from DC to HC, so we could keep that 90s defense intact. All of a sudden, HC responsibilities triggered the worst of Gun's personality tics. He starts diagramming seating charts at 3 in the morning. __________________ The secret to happiness is freedom, and the secret to freedom is courage.
Posts: 37,720

01-05-2006, 12:19 PM	#5
the Talking Can MVP Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $301192	Solari, hopefully, isn't going anywhere. __________________ Clark Hunt:a backup QB and an 8-8 record is worth 2 seconds"
Posts: 46,107

01-05-2006, 12:28 PM	#13
jiveturkey Captain Kick Ass Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Kansas Casino cash: $52347	It's possible that a new 0-Cord would allow Trent to call his owns plays from time to time instead of taking time outs all of the time. This is of course another assumtion.
Posts: 4,902

01-05-2006, 12:17 PM	#3
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $393330	what kind worries me is that Herm Edward might clean house on the offensive side of the ball and actually KEEP some of the guys on defense.
Posts: 73,970

01-05-2006, 12:30 PM	#15
Branden Albert's Huge Balls ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In the Soup Nazis Kitchen Casino cash: $152753	I hope Trent Green is smart enough to override Herm Edwards when it's 3rd and 3 from the 30 yard line and actually run a play. __________________ Alex Smith's career record when the opponent scores at least 24 points: 2-27-1
Posts: 150,404

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode