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Old 09-27-2004, 09:32 PM  
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Comedy Central Refutes O'Reilly's Claim

Comedy Central Refutes O'Reilly's Claim

By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer

NEW YORK - The folks at Comedy Central were annoyed when Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly kept referring to "The Daily Show" audience as "stoned slackers." So they did a little research. And guess whose audience is more educated?

Viewers of Jon Stewart's show are more likely to have completed four years of college than people who watch "The O'Reilly Factor," according to Nielsen Media Research.

O'Reilly's teasing came when Stewart appeared on his show earlier this month.

"You know what's really frightening?" O'Reilly said. "You actually have an influence on this presidential election. That is scary, but it's true. You've got stoned slackers watching your dopey show every night and they can vote."

Comedy Central executives realized, and O'Reilly acknowledged, that he was poking fun. But they said they didn't want a misconception to persist.

"If the head of General Motors was watching O'Reilly's show, that could be very important to us," said Doug Herzog, Comedy Central president.

"If you listen to O'Reilly, you get the sense that it was crazy longhairs behind the show," he said. "And it's not. It's great, smart television that attracts a well-compensated audience, most of whom are voting age."

Relax, said Fox News Channel spokesman Rob Zimmerman.

"Comedy Central must have lost their sense of humor," Zimmerman said. "Without Jon Stewart, Comedy Central would turn into the Great American Country Channel."

Comedy Central also touted a recent study by the University of Pennsylvania's National Annenberg Election Survey, which said young viewers of "The Daily Show" were more likely to answer questions about politics correctly than those who don't.

Comedy Central had no statistics on how many people watch "The Daily Show" stoned.

Although seemingly taken aback by repeated "stoned slackers" references while talking with O'Reilly, Stewart was ready with a joke.

"This election is going to rely on the undecided," he said. "And who is more undecided than stoned slackers? Ice cream or pretzels? Ice cream or pretzels? What's it going to be?

Whether it's the slacker or no-slacker zone, O'Reilly is entering it Oct. 7, when he's scheduled to appear on "The Daily Show."

So if Stewart's audience is comprised of stoned slackers, how would Herzog describe O'Reilly's audience?

"I'm not getting into that game," he said.

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Old 09-29-2004, 04:32 AM   #46
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Old 09-29-2004, 07:17 AM   #47
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What are you lying about now?

You know that O'reilly believes what he said. You know that your defense of him is nothing more than dishonest schilling. You know that you got caught in a flip-flop on Stewart being a sycophant.

Whether Stewart made a joke to play along or not was never the issue, despite your dishonest struggle to make it so. Nothing that I said is in the least bit at odds with anything that Boozer or MarkM said. In fact, it's in direct odds with what you said, as you argued that Comedy Central didn't have a sense of humor about it and needed to get their panties out of their crotch. Boozer pointed out, in contrast to what you said, that they were protecting their bottom line, and it shouldn't be a surprise that they'd defend their audience. MarkM pointed out that Stewart (in his self depricating way) makes fun of his audience all the time, and maintained that O'reilly is a jackass.

But by all means, take every side of this issue that you possibly can Russ.

We both know that O'reilly believes what he said, which is my only point here... O'reilly doesn't make jokes. It's not his style. He makes snide remarks that he believes. THAT'S his style. So you can make this pretend, dishonest argument until the cows come home that O'reilly was simply making a joke, and that "the morons at Comedy Central couldn't even tell it was a joke." And then you can turn 180 degrees and say that you made the same case as Boozer and MarkM, and then call me out for not blasting them for making points that actually had nothing whatsoever to do with anything you've argued, and in fact sits in contrast of your argument.

But we alllllllll know the truth. And that's that you're slinging for O'reilly no matter what he says. Even when you have no reason to, you'll jock for him. Even when you have to be dishonest with yourself and others.
Wow, 5 paragraphs and you still dodged my question.

What a pussy you must be.


Again, are Mark M and Boozer liars as well?
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Old 09-29-2004, 07:19 AM   #48
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OK, KCWolfman, stop arguing and just answer one question, no buts, ifs or any other bullshit. Forget everything and answer with a "Yes" or "No" only, it's not that hard.

Did O'Reilly mean what he said when he made that comment about the CC audience?
I didn't see the show. Unlike the rest of the goobers on this forum I don't watch the OP shows on CNN or Fox or the other rhetoric stations. I have heard about 10 minutes of O'Reilly in my life.

That said, I will take the word of O'Reilly, Jon Stewart, Fox, the author of this story, and CC over the word of a vindictive bitter partisan tool like TJ and assume he meant it as comedy.
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Old 09-29-2004, 07:20 AM   #49
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So stop cleaning the Exec's arse at CC for a moment and answer the question. Are Mark M and Boozer liars?
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Old 09-29-2004, 07:41 AM   #50
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I avoided this thread because I simply don't care, but then I saw the clip last night and it was obviously a joke.

This would be akin to sKerry joking that Bush was a facist pig, and then a thread showing up calling him a liar because Bush is not actually Sus domesticus
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Old 09-29-2004, 10:11 AM   #51
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I avoided this thread because I simply don't care, but then I saw the clip last night and it was obviously a joke.

This would be akin to sKerry joking that Bush was a facist pig, and then a thread showing up calling him a liar because Bush is not actually Sus domesticus
So let's see. Add Cochise to the liar list.

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Old 09-29-2004, 10:49 AM   #52
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Hilarious. Caught not only in a web of dishonestey, but continues to spin while having a flame held to his feet.

Thanks for the entertainment Russ.

No, I don't think MarkM or Boozer were lying. I think they were pretty much dead on.
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Old 09-29-2004, 11:00 AM   #53
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You know, I really didn't want to get stuck between you two ... it'd be like a moped being trapped between a pair of dump trucks.



I didn't see the clip, so I have no idea what O'Reilly was getting at, how it was said, etc.

All I know is that, more than likely, Stewart took no offense. He's always making fun of EVERYTHING, including his audience. That's why I like his show so much: I make fun of everything, so he reminds me of myself ...

well, expect that he's short, Jewish, funnier, older, lives in New York, has a better job and makes a LOT more money. Other than that, though, he and I are exactly the same.

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Old 09-29-2004, 11:16 AM   #54
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So stop cleaning the Exec's arse at CC for a moment and answer the question. Are Mark M and Boozer liars?


You're going to ask me that (after I actually already answered it), with your tounge firmly planted up O'reilly's arse?

Seriously?

I've never seen you in such denial before. You simply can't admit when you've been had.
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Old 09-29-2004, 12:02 PM   #55
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No, I don't think MarkM or Boozer were lying. I think they were pretty much dead on.
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so I fail to see how what O'Reily said could be taken as an insult

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Old 09-29-2004, 02:50 PM   #56
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The spin and diversion has been genious. Nice work.

We still both know that O'reilly believed what he said.
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Old 09-29-2004, 02:55 PM   #57
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The spin and diversion has been genious. Nice work.

We still both know that O'reilly believed what he said.
O'Reilly believes everything he says... That's the way he is... Which is why I can't stand to listen to him...


Not a matter whether I agree with him or not... I just can't stand his ego...
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Old 09-30-2004, 07:48 AM   #58
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I was watching TDS last night, and Stewart said that he took the comment as a joke and thought O'Reilly meant it as such. Comedy Central? Not so much.

Stewart has been opening his show commenting about the remark for the last few days. Funny stuff ...

almost as funny as O'Reilly calling professors and Yale and Harvard -- two of the world's most respected academic institutions -- "liberal pinheads." And almost as funny as O'Reilly giving credit to Bush for not asking for interview questions in advance (funny, but I thought that was the point of an interview ... to ask questions and not get a prepared response).

Almost, but not quite.

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Old 09-30-2004, 08:25 AM   #59
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I was watching TDS last night, and Stewart said that he took the comment as a joke and thought O'Reilly meant it as such. Comedy Central? Not so much.

Stewart has been opening his show commenting about the remark for the last few days. Funny stuff ...

almost as funny as O'Reilly calling professors and Yale and Harvard -- two of the world's most respected academic institutions -- "liberal pinheads." And almost as funny as O'Reilly giving credit to Bush for not asking for interview questions in advance (funny, but I thought that was the point of an interview ... to ask questions and not get a prepared response).

Almost, but not quite.

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almost as funny as the clips Stewart showed of Bush's "Mission Accomplished" speech where he declared victory, claimed Sadaam was an ally, and said they knew of 100's of sites where WMDs were....amazing how people forget, that's epic Flip-Flopping (or stupidity, or dishonesty, or...)
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almost as funny as the clips Stewart showed of Bush's "Mission Accomplished" speech where he declared victory, claimed Sadaam was an ally, and said they knew of 100's of sites where WMDs were....amazing how people forget, that's epic Flip-Flopping (or stupidity, or dishonesty, or...)
And almost as funny as that was Kerry's inability to answer a simple question from Diane (sp?) Sawyer about the Iraq war.

The saddest part is that, no matter who is elected, we're all screwed ...

well, except for JBret. That guy will never get screwed.

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