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Game of Thrones *Spoiler* Thread
There's been some recent confusion with the old spoiler thread, so I'm kicking off a new one for tonight's premiere. This is going to be the one for folks who've read all the books. So anything anybody might want to talk about is in bounds. Suffice to say, if you haven't read the books, you'll probably want to stay out of here until you do...
I'll bump the old spoiler-free thread shortly in case anybody's interested. For future reference the link to that one is here |
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From then on, one tine of the necklace (left collarbone) is tucked underneath the hem of the top. Was watching closely for it.
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04-14-2014, 02:17 AM | #1744 |
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**** you, Joffrey.
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Littlefinger basically tells Sansa that it was the Queen of Thorns who took the stone from her hairnet and used it to poison Joffrey. It is possible Littlefinger was lying, but he was being truthful about everything else when he said it, so I think it is true.
If you watch closely in this episode, when she first goes up to Sansa, she pretty clearly grabs one of the stones off Sansa's necklace and you can see where the stone is missing after that. There's also a shot of Joffrey taking the cup from the table for his last drink, and she is sitting within arm's length of the cup, so she had opportunity. I don't think there's any doubt the Queen of Thorns did it. As a book reader, I am enjoying all the theories being posted in the non-spoiler threads. A lot of people seem to think it was Cersei which is funny. I mean it makes sense, she's a twisted evil bitch and she was losing her grip on her power as a result of the wedding, and Tommen being king puts her back on top, plus she could frame Tyrion for it and she hates Tyrion. But book readers know that for all of Cersei's failings, which are many, she loves her kids and would do anything to protect them, I guess they can't bring that through as easily on the show as GRRM can in her POV chapters. |
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He did. Sansa, Arya, Snow or some Stark loyalist should not only have killed him but pulled at bastard Bolton on him. I was pissed when I read this scene. I read a recent interview with George RR where he said he didn't cheat the readers by not allowing a Stark to kill him or suffer more. Wellll I have a different opinion.
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Although it doesn't state it as fact, the books certainly lead you to believe it was Olanna to save Margery from torture and be able to control the little brother better. She got help from Littlefinger and Dontos. Littlefinger wanted Sansa for himself to rule the Vale and or the North. Or at least it was clear to me as I read the books.
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All conjecture, though. Would have helped paint the picture if they had shown Lady O walking past the cup or hot ass Marjery, but that would have made it too simple to know for sure, likely. Either way, fantastic job by all in that scene, especially Jack Gleeson. As you said keg, that was a great makeup job. |
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I don't think she dropped the strangler in until immediately before Joff died. Margaery took his cup and put it down near Olanna at about that point IIRC.
It's amusing looking at the spoiler-free thread and Buck freaking out that somebody may have spoiled the potential "season long whodunit" for him. I have a feeling the show will handle it exactly like the books did: everything is there in plain sight, but they'll never actually make it obvious. Now it's all about the chain of events with Tyrion, turning Jamie into an even more sympathetic character, turning Cersei into an even more vile harpie and ultimately killing Tywin (and Shae). I don't think there's any way the show turns it into a murder mystery, it's got to be a public demonization of the imp. |
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