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Old 02-20-2014, 12:21 PM  
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The Combine's Here, Bitch!

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2014 NFL Combine schedule: TV channel, online streaming, invite list, workouts and more
By Matt Conner
on Feb 20 2014, 10:12a

he road to the NFL Draft is longer in 2014 than any other offseason given the league's decision to push it back a few weeks to May 8-10. For the next three months, draftniks will circle around prospects like hawks, analyzing their every move and weighing the pros and cons of each player.

The process starts en masse this week with the start of the 2014 NFL Combine in Indianapolis. If you love the Draft, then this is a big week for you.

For those who are new to the NFL Combine, it's a seven-day event broken up into four-day shifts for each position group (quarterbacks to punters). Each group comes to Indy for four days to meet with representatives from each NFL team for medical assessments, interviews and a number of workouts. It's termed the Underwear Olympics for that reason, as teams fall in and out of love with prospects based on 40-yard dash times and vertical leaps.

The quick guide to the CombineNow that you have the basics, let's dive into a little more what's going down this week in Indianapolis.

The Combine workout schedule

Here are the days the actual workouts for each position group:

Saturday, Feb. 22: Tight Ends, Offensive Linemen, Special Teams

Sunday, Feb.23: Quarterbacks, Running Backs, Wide Receivers

Monday, Feb. 24: Defensive Line, Linebackers

Tuesday, Feb. 25: Defensive Backs

There are four groups of players arriving as shown above. Each group has four days of events.

Day 1: Travel to Indianapolis* ~ Registration ~ Hospital Pre-Exam & X-rays ~ Orientation ~ Interviews

Day 2: Measurements ~ Medical Examinations ~ Media ~ Interviews

Day 3: NFLPA Meeting ~ Psychological Testing ~ PK/ST Workout ~ Bench Press ~ Interviews

Day 4: On-Field Workout (timing, stations, skill drills) ~ Departure from Indianapolis

With the first arrivals coming on Wednesday, that puts the first day of workouts on Saturday.

The players invited

Every top college football player will likely be in attendance in Indianapolis, even if some of the top athletes won't participate in the workouts. The NFL invited over 300 players to attend. Teddy Bridgewater to Jadeveon Clowney, your favorite college players will likely be there.

Who is eligible to be invited to the Combine? Basically, seniors without college eligibility left and those who have declared early.

And how are players selected to the Combine? Read this:

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Participants are determined annually by a Selection Committee. The Directors of both National and BLESTO scouting services, which combined represent twenty-five NFL teams, are joined by members of various NFL player personnel departments to form the committee. The participating NFL executives can rotate on a yearly basis, and remain anonymous. ALL eligible players are reviewed and voted on by the committee members. Each athlete receiving the necessary number of votes, by position, is then extended an invitation. While it is not a perfect science, the goal of the committee is to invite every player that will be drafted in the ensuing NFL Draft.
You can find the full list of players expected to attend at the bottom of this post. While the list is comprehensive, there are a few players every year who are drafted but didn't get invited to the Combine.

The workouts

The most important one is not a workout -- it's the interview. Teams will have the opportunity to interview players where they'll get about 15 minutes with them. With so little time, the questions have to be precise and all have a purpose.

The second most important item there is getting the medical check-up -- essentially confirming that the player is healthy or checking out previous injuries. Team doctors will want this information so the GMs and coaches can make an informed decision.

Some of the other workouts, via Big Blue View:

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40-yard dash: Measures straight line speed over a distance. Not very important for non-skill position players, but coming from the 40-yard dash is the "10-yard split." That is the time it takes to travel the first 10 yards of the event and gives a measurement as to the player's explosion and first step. Very important for defensive and offensive linemen. Dontari Poe had a 10-yard split of 1.7 at 330 pounds, which is decent for a linebacker.Bruce Irvin at 235 pounds had a 10-yard split of 1.57, which is a good number for a defensive back. Both help push those players into the middle of the first round.

Bench press: Fairly simple, it measures upper body strength. Moreso it shows if you have stayed in good condition over the offseason. Poor numbers here possibly indicate not working hard enough.

Vertical and Broad jump: Another measurement of explosion and lower body strength. Also important for wide receivers and defensive backs to show off their leaping ability.

3-cone drill: Essentially a change of direction drill. Most important for skill position players. Shows off lateral agility and ability to accelerate out of a turn. One of the drills that translates best on the field. A good score in the 3 cone is often a marker for a high draft pick.

20/60-yard shuttles: Shows the ability to come to a complete stop and accelerate. Obviously important for any position and a good score here is indicative of explosion and body control. As you can see, explosion is a big factor here and one that the NFL is keen to see.

Position-specific drills: Each position has specific drills that test for many different attributes. Change of direction and hip swing for defensive backs, hands skills for wide receivers during the "gauntlet," kick slide drills for the offensive linemen, power for the defensive linemen in hitting bag drills and accuracy for quarterbacks in throwing drills.
How do I watch the Combine?

NFL Network will televise some of it.

NFL.com will stream the action.

KCChiefs.com will have full video of Andy Reid and John Dorsey's press conferences but will not stream them live.
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Old 02-24-2014, 06:30 PM   #586
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By the way, it should be clear to others that I dont think Aaron Donald fits in a 3-4 defense. I understand that others on this messageboard feel the opposite. I dont think it benefits any of us to repeat the same argument ad Nauseam.

I have rest my case regarding Aaron Donald. You all are welcome to repeat your arguments if you choose. I would be happy to continue discussing everything other than Aaron Donald.
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Old 02-24-2014, 07:02 PM   #587
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I really don't see the chiefs going WR for a big reason. It's a heavy WR market. There are supposed to be a few good WR FA's, along with a very deep WR draft. If you can get a 1st rd talent WR in a later round, then why get one in first? I heard this year may break the record of 7 wr's in the 1st. You wouldn't want say the 5th best WR over the 2nd best CB, S, NT or even TE when they arent as deep, right?
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Old 02-24-2014, 07:05 PM   #588
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Good God.....planetdoc is annoying as ****. Which propaganda technique is that dipshit?
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Old 02-24-2014, 07:08 PM   #589
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I've already mentioned it a number of times.

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Old 02-24-2014, 08:03 PM   #590
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By the way, it should be clear to others that I dont think Aaron Donald fits in a 3-4 defense. I understand that others on this messageboard feel the opposite. I dont think it benefits any of us to repeat the same argument ad Nauseam.

I have rest my case regarding Aaron Donald. You all are welcome to repeat your arguments if you choose. I would be happy to continue discussing everything other than Aaron Donald.
Your problem is that you looking at from a narrow view.

If Donald is the best interior pass rusher in this class, and you have the opportunity to take him, you adjust your subpackages to utilize the talent.

This team, as has been pointed out already, takes more snaps in subs than in base.

And, for the record, Tamba Hali played LDE in a 43 base and registered 9 sacks his rookie year.
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Old 02-24-2014, 08:48 PM   #591
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I'd be just fine if we drafted Aaron Donald. Dude showed that he has freakish god given talent...maybe not on the level of Poe, but close.

You put Donald, Poe and Bailey on the DL and rotate in Catapano, Powe and Devito and teams would have REAL TROUBLE doubling anyone.

That means Houston and Hali get to pin those ears back and the secondary gets to feast like kings on all the ducks.
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Old 02-24-2014, 09:03 PM   #592
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if we drafted Donald I wouldn't mind switching to a 4-3 base set. hali as an end. lets be honest, he's far too slow to be a 3-4 olb at this point in his career. so hali LE, poe, Donald. sign jared allen out of FA, while finding/developing a RE. Houston at SAM, DJ in the middle, then just find a WILL. sounds like a pretty nasty front 7 without doing a whole lot of work.

I feel that would maximize the talent we have. bailey could drop his weight back down, he looks like a natural 4-3 LE. catapano would be a natural 4-3, 3 tech behind Donald. DeVito would add nice depth behind poe. hali could play RE opposite side bailey If we couldn't sign jared allen. I do kind of wonder about Houston at SAM though.
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if we drafted Donald I wouldn't mind switching to a 4-3 base set. hali as an end. lets be honest, he's far too slow to be a 3-4 olb at this point in his career. so hali LE, poe, Donald. sign jared allen out of FA, while finding/developing a RE. Houston at SAM, DJ in the middle, then just find a WILL. sounds like a pretty nasty front 7 without doing a whole lot of work.

I feel that would maximize the talent we have. bailey could drop his weight back down, he looks like a natural 4-3 LE. catapano would be a natural 4-3, 3 tech behind Donald. DeVito would add nice depth behind poe. hali could play RE opposite side bailey If we couldn't sign jared allen. I do kind of wonder about Houston at SAM though.
Switch to Seattle's defense or copy the Patriots hybrid D. Houston would be fine as a DE, flop him and Hali and we should be golden. The only thing we would lack for that defense is a pair of good OLBs. We would have to bring a couple of guys in via FA and then draft 1 or 2 to develop/push for a starting role.
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Switch to Seattle's defense or copy the Patriots hybrid D. Houston would be fine as a DE, flop him and Hali and we should be golden. The only thing we would lack for that defense is a pair of good OLBs. We would have to bring a couple of guys in via FA and then draft 1 or 2 to develop/push for a starting role.



I was unfamiliar with the patriots d, so I just looked it up. that would be pretty sweet. we could have a tremendous amount of success running that D!
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I'm sorry but there is no way we can switch to a 4-3 our personnel would need a total overhaul.
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I'm sorry but there is no way we can switch to a 4-3 our personnel would need a total overhaul.
Go back to wherever you came.

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You're going to play our guys out of position just to run a 4-3?
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You're going to play our guys out of position just to run a 4-3?
who would be playing out of postion?
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Hali, Houston, Poe, any of our current DEs. Who would play Ouside linebacker?
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I'm sorry but there is no way we can switch to a 4-3 our personnel would need a total overhaul.
Not at all.

DTs: Powell, Poe, Howard, Bailey

DEs: Hali, Houston, Catapano, Bailey (strong side sub)

MLB: Derrick Johnson, Nico Johnson

The secondary would remain the same. The only thing we would need to pick up is some SOLBs and WOLBs and there are some of those available in FA, more than there are any 3-4 OLBs. And of course, our FS situation sucks. Everything else would be fine.
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