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Old 01-31-2013, 08:54 PM   Topic Starter
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Why do people like Chris Christie?

I've never seen this guy say anything thoughtful and he always seems angry. Why is he so appealing to confused peopled like Kotter?
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:55 PM   #2
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:16 PM   #3
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He seems to tell it like it is. People want politicians to tell them the truth. But, the reality is that the people can't handle the truth.

eg. every politician will raise our taxes no matter how many times they promise to not raise our taxes.
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:07 AM   #4
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He seems to tell it like it is. People want politicians to tell them the truth. But, the reality is that the people can't handle the truth....
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He comes off as straight forward, doesnt speak the party line if he disagrees with them. Says what he thinks, refreshing.

Seems to care about doing his job more than his political aspirations.
This. Rabid ideologues who do nothing but engage in disingenuous demogoguery and the politics of the lunatic fringe....don't understand that representative democracy requires consensus and compromise--working together for a common good. Instead, they insist on a narrow and rigid approach to government that renders it impotent. Their greed and myopia is only focused on themselves and if that screws over anyone else....then so be it. They are--the RWNJ dittoheads on the right, and the Moonbat bleeding hearts on the left. You know...the extremist whack jobs who post here far too often.

Whack jobs like that spooge gurgling closeted sausage-smoking pillowbitergot who masterbates to Ron Paul posters and the rantings of Lew Rockwell....the one who calls himself Taco John....
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:10 AM   #5
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Used to love him, but he once said something nice about Obama or some other dem, so i now hate his guts/DC hard righter
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:27 PM   #6
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Used to love him, but he once said something nice about Obama or some other dem, so i now hate his guts/DC hard righter
Yep...moderation, consensus, compromise? WTH???

Lunatic fringe douchebags prefer dogma and gridlock over effective governance.....
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:03 PM   #7
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This. Rabid ideologues who do nothing but engage in disingenuous demogoguery and the politics of the lunatic fringe....don't understand that representative democracy requires consensus and compromise--working together for a common good. Instead, they insist on a narrow and rigid approach to government that renders it impotent. Their greed and myopia is only focused on themselves and if that screws over anyone else....then so be it. They are--the RWNJ dittoheads on the right, and the Moonbat bleeding hearts on the left. You know...the extremist whack jobs who post here far too often.

Whack jobs like that spooge gurgling closeted sausage-smoking pillowbitergot who masterbates to Ron Paul posters and the rantings of Lew Rockwell....the one who calls himself Taco John....

No one takes you seriously.

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Obama
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It's easy to compromise when your only criteria for compromise is voting for whoever is popular at the moment. Some of us, though, actually have values.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:23 PM   #8
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No one takes you seriously.

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It's easy to compromise when your only criteria for compromise is voting for whoever is popular at the moment. Some of us, though, actually have values.
Dogma and rigid ideological extemism is not the same as "values." The only values you seem to have is a naive and misguided faith that anarchy masquerading as "libertarianism" is a cogent and realistic approach managing our nation.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:57 PM   #9
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Dogma and rigid ideological extemism is not the same as "values." The only values you seem to have is a naive and misguided faith that anarchy masquerading as "libertarianism" is a cogent and realistic approach managing our nation.
yep, what he said...
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Old 02-01-2013, 02:35 PM   #10
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Dogma and rigid ideological extemism is not the same as "values."
Translation: "Stop liking what I don't like!"

What your ilk don't understand is that....

a.) A government that agrees on everything all the time is likely dangerous and hungry for power. Without any voices of dissent in government, we the people are left with nobody to stand up for us.

b.) Some things - such as civil liberties and our inalienable rights - absolutely CANNOT be compromised on if we want to maintain a just society based on liberty and democratic-republican values.
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:00 PM   #11
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Dogma and rigid ideological extemism is not the same as "values."
I'm always amused at your special ability to say absolutely nothing valuable, and make it sound like something profoundly intellectual.

Holding the position that government follow the constitution is considered "ideological extemism" (sic), whereas breaking and bending the rules where its convenient is considered sound and moderate. Yep, sounds like Kotter...

What can anyone expect from a guy who went from Clinton, to Bush II, to Obama? Anyone who has been around this forum for any amount of time knows that you are strictly motivated by being in the popular group (whatever that is at the moment) so you can satisfy your deeply ingrained psychological need for being accepted.

Also, to directly answer the silly quote above - an ideology is a collection of values that are connected together by reasoning. It's cute how you thought you were saying something profound, though.
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:18 PM   #12
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Dogma and rigid ideological extemism is not the same as "values." The only values you seem to have is a naive and misguided faith that anarchy masquerading as "libertarianism" is a cogent and realistic approach managing our nation.
Managing our nation? We're supposed to be free—not managed.
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Old 02-01-2013, 02:29 PM   #13
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No one takes you seriously.

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It's easy to compromise when your only criteria for compromise is voting for whoever is popular at the moment. Some of us, though, actually have values.
No shit, assholes like Kotter are exactly what is wrong with this country. Nothing like situational ethics to ruin a once fine country.
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Old 02-01-2013, 02:31 PM   #14
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No shit, assholes like Kotter are exactly what is wrong with this country. Nothing like situational ethics to ruin a once fine country.
assholes like kc are exactly what is wrong with this country...

nothing like rigid ideology to ruin a once fine country...





actually, it's sad you think our country is not a fine country still...

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