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Old 11-19-2012, 07:50 PM   Topic Starter
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:52 PM   #2
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For starters, who is going to build the roads we drive on?
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Old 11-19-2012, 07:56 PM   #3
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For starters, who is going to build the roads we drive on?
You are just trying to bait me into another ban
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:00 PM   #4
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Capitalism in all its glory is a competition.

Some people will do very well, a lot of folks will do okay, and some folks will just do terrible.

This is unavoidable. This is the nature of competition. Everybody can't win. So we can shrug and say **** it, and suffer what will I'm sure will be nothing but happy, sunny side effects of a poverty class with third world finances, or we can provide some sort of safety net so that people aren't living in squalor.

That does mean some will abuse the system. Unavoidable. But when a basic life of work provides you a better quality of life than a life of living off food stamps, the light inside us will almost always guide us to productivity.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:20 PM   #5
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liberal logic right there... it's not a 50/50, win/lose thing. Everybody CAN win, it's just that some win more than others. It's not just one battle that's fought, it's thousands of battles daily!
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:40 PM   #6
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liberal logic right there... it's not a 50/50, win/lose thing. Everybody CAN win, it's just that some win more than others. It's not just one battle that's fought, it's thousands of battles daily!
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:19 PM   #7
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Capitalism in all its glory is a competition.

Some people will do very well, a lot of folks will do okay, and some folks will just do terrible.

This is unavoidable. This is the nature of competition. Everybody can't win. So we can shrug and say **** it, and suffer what will I'm sure will be nothing but happy, sunny side effects of a poverty class with third world finances, or we can provide some sort of safety net so that people aren't living in squalor.

That does mean some will abuse the system. Unavoidable. But when a basic life of work provides you a better quality of life than a life of living off food stamps, the light inside us will almost always guide us to productivity.

That about sums it up.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:49 PM   #8
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Capitalism in all its glory is a competition.

Some people will do very well, a lot of folks will do okay, and some folks will just do terrible.

This is unavoidable. This is the nature of competition. Everybody can't win. So we can shrug and say **** it, and suffer what will I'm sure will be nothing but happy, sunny side effects of a poverty class with third world finances, or we can provide some sort of safety net so that people aren't living in squalor.

That does mean some will abuse the system. Unavoidable. But when a basic life of work provides you a better quality of life than a life of living off food stamps, the light inside us will almost always guide us to productivity.
Pretty much this.

And--What about the children? Seriously, what about them? Take them all away from their crappy parent(s) and have the state raise them 100%? Or try to keep the families together with the parent(s) maintaining some responsibility for the kids, even if they are leeching some off the system? There's no perfect solution, but you can't say "Let 'em rot" to the kids too, can you?
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:24 PM   #9
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For starters, who is going to build the roads we drive on?


Won't sombodies please think of the rodes!
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:25 PM   #10
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Won't sombodies please think of the rodes!
It was an example dipshit.

Just like defense, education, or anything else public.
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:13 PM   #11
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Won't sombodies please think of the rodes!
The entitlement sector is so transparent it is sad.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:25 PM   #12
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For starters, who is going to build the roads we drive on?
WTF do roads have anything to do with social justice you ****ing nit wit?
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:28 PM   #13
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WTF do roads have anything to do with social justice you ****ing nit wit?
Was speaking to the "you keep what you earn and I'll keep what I earn"
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:40 PM   #14
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For starters, who is going to build the roads we drive on?
The Libertarian candidate in the last Presidential election spoke of a "consumption tax" to replace income tax. So you keep what you earn and public works are regularly funded by business transactions. It then becomes important for the state to encourage a robust economy that benefits producers.

There is also the option of voting on specific taxes via county or state to fund public works.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:53 AM   #15
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For starters, who is going to build the roads we drive on?
Apparently Chinese construction companies.
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