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Old 11-19-2012, 08:40 AM   Topic Starter
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I am re-evaluating my political opinions

I have come to the conclusion that it's time for me to reconsider all of my political positions. Most of my opinions have been held for so long that they are more habit than anything, so now I am going to attempt to start from scratch and see where the endeavor takes me.

Obviously, the best way to form political opinions is by consulting bitter football fans on an internet message board, so let's do this. Somebody start me off. Pick an issue and tell me why I should be on your side.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:53 AM   #2
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You should support the removal of faces from our paper and coin currency. Current practices support distorted heroism, cultism, and idolatry. In the waning Roman empire, symbols of Rome's greatness were eventually replaced with personal greatness. Please support my position of placing symbols of America on our currency, such as the eagle, lady liberty, natural landmarks, etc. These symbols enhance pride in the meaning of what America stands for: independence, freedom, and beauty.
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:57 AM   #3
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I think it's smart to consider, reconsider, and consider again your political opinions your entire life. The issues that are important to me change over time, and I would think that would be true for most (obviously not all) people.

The left-wing and right-wing zealots will say that's wishy-washy. I prefer the terms reasonable and pragmatic.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:05 AM   #4
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I think it's smart to consider, reconsider, and consider again your political opinions your entire life. The issues that are important to me change over time, and I would think that would be true for most (obviously not all) people.

The left-wing and right-wing zealots will say that's wishy-washy. I prefer the terms reasonable and pragmatic.
For me, freedom is reasonable and pragmatic—because it works. Therefore, I say restore the Constitution.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:18 AM   #5
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For me, freedom is reasonable and pragmatic—because it works. Therefore, I say restore the Constitution.
How many premises were left out in this post? At least 10?
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:19 AM   #6
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I think it's smart to consider, reconsider, and consider again your political opinions your entire life. The issues that are important to me change over time, and I would think that would be true for most (obviously not all) people.

The left-wing and right-wing zealots will say that's wishy-washy. I prefer the terms reasonable and pragmatic.
I agree.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:45 AM   #7
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I think it's smart to consider, reconsider, and consider again your political opinions your entire life. The issues that are important to me change over time, and I would think that would be true for most (obviously not all) people.

The left-wing and right-wing zealots will say that's wishy-washy. I prefer the terms reasonable and pragmatic.
Great take.
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Old 11-19-2012, 11:59 AM   #8
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I think it's smart to consider, reconsider, and consider again your political opinions your entire life. The issues that are important to me change over time, and I would think that would be true for most (obviously not all) people.

The left-wing and right-wing zealots will say that's wishy-washy. I prefer the terms reasonable and pragmatic.
I know my politics are not the same as they were twenty years ago, or even ten years ago. Some on this forum consider a change of political stance to by lying (Direckshun), but people's views do change as they progress through life.
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:52 PM   #9
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I know my politics are not the same as they were twenty years ago, or even ten years ago. Some on this forum consider a change of political stance to by lying (Direckshun), but people's views do change as they progress through life.
Voted for Ronald Reagan twice and George H once before voting for Clinton and not going back to Republicans. The extreme part of the Republican party that wants to go all big government and tell people who they can marry and control their bodies for 9 months was just a bridge too far. It goes against every thing they stand for, I don't get it.

I'm not so happy with the Dem's either. You will find a thread on here when I call out Obama for things I consider BS.

You really need to decide how you want to live your life, where you want your life to go, where do you want to end up. Then decide which party will help you and others like you get to that place.
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Old 11-19-2012, 05:58 PM   #10
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Voted for Ronald Reagan twice and George H once before voting for Clinton and not going back to Republicans. The extreme part of the Republican party that wants to go all big government and tell people who they can marry and control their bodies for 9 months was just a bridge too far. It goes against every thing they stand for, I don't get it.

I'm not so happy with the Dem's either. You will find a thread on here when I call out Obama for things I consider BS.

You really need to decide how you want to live your life, where you want your life to go, where do you want to end up. Then decide which party will help you and others like you get to that place.
I agree with part of your post, but to pretend the left does not want big government is silly and most likely disingenuous, I say disingenuous because I think you are smarter than being that silly so the latter fits~
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:40 PM   #11
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Voted for Ronald Reagan twice and George H once before voting for Clinton and not going back to Republicans. The extreme part of the Republican party that wants to go all big government and tell people who they can marry and control their bodies for 9 months was just a bridge too far. It goes against every thing they stand for, I don't get it.

I'm not so happy with the Dem's either. You will find a thread on here when I call out Obama for things I consider BS.

You really need to decide how you want to live your life, where you want your life to go, where do you want to end up. Then decide which party will help you and others like you get to that place.
You realize of course that Republicans, at least conservatives anyways, know most of those issues belong with the states. Since they support state's rights and federalism. However, they know it's the left that tries to get those issues centralized by pushing them up to the SC using incorporation. So leaves them between a rock and a hard place. They never denied supporting traditional values and feel the family unit is important. Still, these are supposed to be determined by family values in each area. THAT is not big govt....since it does not centralize power even if an area governs conservatively.

Now then, since 7/8ths of life is economic, the Democrats want to control that area of life a helluva lot more.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:41 AM   #12
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You should support the removal of faces from our paper and coin currency. Current practices support distorted heroism, cultism, and idolatry. In the waning Roman empire, symbols of Rome's greatness were eventually replaced with personal greatness. Please support my position of placing symbols of America on our currency, such as the eagle, lady liberty, natural landmarks, etc. These symbols enhance pride in the meaning of what America stands for: independence, freedom, and beauty.
America stands for beauty?
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:43 AM   #13
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America stands for beauty?
Natural beauty? Hell yes. Our country has some beautiful geography, and we protect that.
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:47 AM   #14
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Natural beauty? Hell yes. Our country has some beautiful geography, and we protect that.
Oh, okay. I've considered your position carefully, and I've decided "meh". I don't really care either way. I won't do anything to support your cause in word nor deed, but neither will I work against it.
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Oh, okay. I've considered your position carefully, and I've decided "meh". I don't really care either way. I won't do anything to support your cause in word nor deed, but neither will I work against it.
YOU ARE EITHER WITH THE SYMBOLIC-CURRENCY-ONLY-MOVEMENT OR AGAINST US.
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