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Old 01-05-2006, 01:15 PM   Topic Starter
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What's going to happen to our offense when AS, Solari, and company are gone?

Just curious. Looking at all the news it looks like CP is going to clean house! With Vermiel's departure he has decided not to continue with the direction the team was going. Our offense has been in the Top 3 the last 5 years and our D appears to have improved and both would continue to improve next year with some additional talent added either through free agency and the upcoming draft.

With the upcoming massive changes in our coaching staff, it could prove costly next year to the Chiefs resulting in the team taking a large step back despite the talent pool we have.

New coach, new philosophy, new staff, new everything! The lack of consistency could be very detrimental to the players.

Promoting AS to the HC seems to be the smartest move right now and it will give us the best chance to be very competitive next year and beyond. If we don't choose this direction, we could see more frustration for another 5 years!

This is not the time to pull the rip cord. Why give up draft picks now when what we need most is good young potential franchise players to develop for the future?

Thoughts?
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Old 01-05-2006, 01:16 PM   #2
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My guess is the 8 pro bolwers we have on offense are going to instantly become inept.
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Old 01-05-2006, 01:22 PM   #3
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My guess is the 8 pro bolwers we have on offense are going to instantly become inept.
Have Gun remained in charge, do you think we would have had the best offense in football over the past 5 years? Just asking...

You make sound as if coaching doesn't matter at all....
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Old 01-05-2006, 01:26 PM   #4
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Have Gun remained in charge, do you think we would have had the best offense in football over the past 5 years? Just asking...

You make sound as if coaching doesn't matter at all....
You're jumping to conclusions if that's what you think I'm saying.

Do I think Gun would have built this offense? Of course not.

Do I think that an offense with 8 pro-bowlers on it is going to crumble with a new coaching situation? No ****ing way.

If this offense begins to falter, it will be due to age, not coaching. It won't take a genious to move the ball when working with 3 pro-bowl O-linemen, 2 Pro-bowl RBs, 1 pro-bowl QB, and a pro-bowl TE. Will we continue to be #1 in the league? Maybe not. but I don't think we're just going to start sucking because Saunders is gone.
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Old 01-05-2006, 01:58 PM   #5
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You're jumping to conclusions if that's what you think I'm saying.

Do I think Gun would have built this offense? Of course not.

Do I think that an offense with 8 pro-bowlers on it is going to crumble with a new coaching situation? No ****ing way.

If this offense begins to falter, it will be due to age, not coaching. It won't take a genious to move the ball when working with 3 pro-bowl O-linemen, 2 Pro-bowl RBs, 1 pro-bowl QB, and a pro-bowl TE. Will we continue to be #1 in the league? Maybe not. but I don't think we're just going to start sucking because Saunders is gone.
So if the O starts to decline with who ever the HC is will you then give props to AS? Why not just promote AS now and find out for sure? Hasn't he earned at least this? To me giving up draft picks is crazy given where we are today and the fact that Vermiel left us with a pretty decent team that could do some damage next year and might go the distance.
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Old 01-05-2006, 02:01 PM   #6
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So if the O starts to decline with who ever the HC is will you then give props to AS? Why not just promote AS now and find out for sure? Hasn't he earned at least this? To me giving up draft picks is crazy given where we are today and the fact that Vermiel left us with a pretty decent team that could do some damage next year and might go the distance.
I already give props to Al Saunders for being a very good O-coordinator. That doesn't mean I want him as head coach.
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Old 01-05-2006, 01:17 PM   #7
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what kind worries me is that Herm Edward might clean house on the offensive side of the ball and actually KEEP some of the guys on defense.
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Old 01-05-2006, 01:22 PM   #8
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what kind worries me is that Herm Edward might clean house on the offensive side of the ball and actually KEEP some of the guys on defense.
Yea. It's perfectly reasonable to think that an experienced NFL coach would "clean house" on a top 2 offense, while clinging to a #32 defense.
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Old 01-05-2006, 01:24 PM   #9
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Yea. It's perfectly reasonable to think that an experienced NFL coach would "clean house" on a top 2 offense, while clinging to a #32 defense.
i think that if Herm edwards doesn't bring Donnie henderson with him there is an extremely good chance that Edwards take Carl's suggestion to keep gunther cunningham.
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Old 01-05-2006, 01:27 PM   #10
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i think that if Herm edwards doesn't bring Donnie henderson with him there is an extremely good chance that Edwards take Carl's suggestion to keep gunther cunningham.
Even if he keeps Gun I would think that the rest of the DV Defensive Clowns would be gone and Gun would be able to pick his own assistants.

I guess we are now in an assumtion based debate.

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It's possible that a new 0-Cord would allow Trent to call his owns plays from time to time instead of taking time outs all of the time.

This is of course another assumtion.
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i think that if Herm edwards doesn't bring Donnie henderson with him there is an extremely good chance that Edwards take Carl's suggestion to keep gunther cunningham.
Ok. It's still a leap in logic to say we're going to clean house on the offense.

You might as well brace yourself for us keeping most of our current defensive personnell, at least for '06. This team has always been on a two year cycle in terms of FA signings, so any changes are likely going to have to come from draft picks and developed bench players.
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Old 01-05-2006, 01:30 PM   #13
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I hope Trent Green is smart enough to override Herm Edwards when it's 3rd and 3 from the 30 yard line and actually run a play.
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Everyone just assumes that Al Saunders would be a good head coach. Just like it was simple for Gunther to move from DC to HC, so we could keep that 90s defense intact. All of a sudden, HC responsibilities triggered the worst of Gun's personality tics. He starts diagramming seating charts at 3 in the morning.
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Old 01-05-2006, 01:23 PM   #15
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Everyone just assumes that Al Saunders would be a good head coach
i don't think everyone is assuming that at all.


people hope that al saunders can maintain the offense while changing it up on defense.


are you assuming that Herm edwards would be able to maintain our current offense?



hope ≠ assume
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