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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea
You really have the hate for organic don't you. Is it because it's a competitor or do you really think it will harm you somehow?
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I don't really want to derail this thread. I'll spoiler it. If it gets much back and forth I'll start a thread.
Spoiler!
No. It won't harm you. In point of fact it is no different than commercially grown food, except, you know, it has been properly fertilized. I guarantee you you can take a bushel of my wheat and a bushel of organic wheat and you couldn't perform a test that would yield a difference, excepting test weight and protein, because my grain will be much higher quality. There isn't a goddamned thing that will translate to nutrition about it.
There are organic farmers around here and they are a mother****ing joke. They farm like my grandpa did, but just achieve worse yields because over time they've mineralized enough organic matter out of the soil (read: destroyed the soil) they can't come up with near as much nitrogen as grandpa did. They lose tremendous amounts of soil to wind and water erosion (catestrophic) because they plow everything to ****ing talcum powder. They are horrible for the environment, are poor stewards of the resources and generally **** off a decent acre that someone else could do something with. But they make a pile of money off their crap grain because dumb****s in the marketplace believe since they signed a piece of paper saying they didn't use any commercial herbicides or fertilizers that it is somehow a premium product.
Moreover, the guys that do it are douchebags. That adds a nice subliminal tie in my dome.
Yeah, yeah. I know you can get organic produce and it will taste better than commercial produce. That is a simple function of harvest interval.
They harvest the commercial stuff at an earlier developmental stage so it can be stored, while the organic stuff has a really short (relatively) shelf life.
That's a pretty major problem for produce farms. If I had one, I'd try to get a farm to store arrangement so I could sell good produce while still not raping the land or management practices.
Bottom line is this: It's a ****ing sham. There isn't a test you could run that would prove anything different between commercial and organic (I can't speak to any preservatives that are applied to produce - but the point still stands with the raw products between an organic and commercial producer - no difference). So mother****ers are doing a bad job of production so they can sell it at a premium. It is intergallactically stupid that this condition exists with American consumers in 2018.
The other take away I'll leave you with is if organic production was mandated our production as a nation would crater. Feedlots would pretty much disappear, grain production would be maybe 30% of current levels and I can't really speak to produce but it would definitely circle the drain over time because the insecticides commercial guys use stem the population of pests. That goes away, and populations will flourish. We would go from a net exporter to a massive importer of food.
The whole thing is a ****ing con job, and I'll say it again, it is intergallactically stupid that this condition exists with American consumers in 2018.
But yeah, Chipotle doesn't give a **** about anything but getting yuppie douches in the door. It's purely a marketing strategy. I recognize that. It just has the opposite effect on me.