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Originally Posted by BlackOp
People hate on Dorsey....but this is up there with Holmes and Roaf as the best trade in Chiefs history.
Montana was good too...but he was just a hired mercenary at that point.
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Originally Posted by RealSNR
Again, not counting trades or contract extensions, this is the best free agent signing we've had in the modern Chiefs era, I believe.
When Priest first signed with us, he made jack shit, and while we were signing him to be our primary starting RB (not in a committee, either) I don't think we were expecting him to be Marshall Faulk-level good. Maybe Dick Vermeil did, because he had that kind of faith in players and people, but I doubt Carl did, either. At the very least, the rest of the league wasn't expecting it, especially the Ravens who drafted his replacement and let him walk.
Mitchell Schwartz was already considered to be a top 5 RT at that point in his young career. We got him for 5 years and $33 million in 2016-- at the time basically the going price for a very good guard. We got an elite player of greater position importance on the line for very good guard money. And we did it by stealing him away at the last minute from a shit **** franchise even though they were prepared to pay more.
I think the nod has to go to Schwartz in that case. It was the circumstances of how we acquired him, what we paid according to what he could have and probably would have received from other teams, and what he's done for the team in his longevity of play (and continues to do so).
It was like that was the signing that changed everything for this OL. You don't usually think of a RT as the catalyst for propelling an OL into elite play, but that's basically what happened. RT was ALWAYS the weakest part of our line for the past 10 seasons, and no matter what kind of quality players we had elsewhere on the line, it was like we knew it would be mediocre because we just couldn't seem to fix that hole (nor did we seem to try too hard). Once we got Schwartz, we saw greatly improved play from Fisher and LDT. Hell, we've still got that nagging LG hole that seemingly only ever gets filled if a random 1-year vet like Jeff Allen or Wisniewski takes over mid-season. But that's just never a big deal for us, nor do I consider it a big deal now.
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Originally Posted by keg in kc
It would be hard to say that he's not. Priest could be argued to be a product of that system and o-line. Whereas Mitch is part of what defines this system and o-line, along with Fish. He's not here (they're not here), we probably aren't in back-to-back AFCG's, we don't win a Superbowl, and Mahomes probably looks much more...human.
In this day and age, with teams stacking their rosters with outside rushers, you have to be good on the bookends, and we're as good as anybody. You saw that when Fish went out last year and Cam Irving looked like I-65 reborn. Who else can leave both their tackles unprotected? Who else could give Mahomes the kind of time he needs to be Mahomes? Nobody else in the league can hang behind center and float around for 8 or 10 seconds waiting for a play to open up. It's part because he's who he is, obviously, but it's also in large part because his line allows him to do it. And nobody is more key to that than the guys on the outside, and with his ability to stay on the field (unlike Fish last year...) nobody has done it better than Mitch, and he's done it week after week against the best pass rushers the NFL has to offer, without chips or help from backs.
So, yeah, i think it's safe to say the back-to-back all pro is probably the best free agent signing in team history.
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Yeah, keg is on the money. Priest was a good back. Not great, good. Priest's patience was as good as there has been, but the rest of it is meh. Not a ton of speed, no power to speak of, wasn't really all that slippery, acceleration was OK - nothing great. But here's the thing, that patience makes him a shit back anywhere but behind THAT line. **** man, Baltimore's line was really ****ing good. Ogden is considered one of the best to do it, and he was ****ing pedestrian.
Simple truth is Holmes looked all world because he was going one on one with DBs a shitload. Holmes was good. That line was disgusting.
Mitch is a hell of a good signing and a hell of a teammate by all accounts.
Consider this though. How does Geoff Schwartz feel? Poor ****er had to play for the Chiefs under the Franchise Killer and his dumbass younger brother gets Mahomes? That's a raw deal if there has ever been one.