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Originally Posted by FringeNC
A case can be made that Vermeil had nothing to do with this offense. His offense was terrible until Martz got there and took it from near dead last to #1 (by the way, that's what a good coordinator does -- has immediate impact, unlike assuming we have to give Gun 3-4 years to build a respectable D). Saunders, working under Martz learned the offense, and it's Saunders not Vermeil who is the offensive guru.
Again, I am not saying that this is true. Martz was unable to maintain the high-powered offense in St. Loius more than two years I think, before it returned to earth.
The whole Vermeil, Martz, Saunders thing is interesting. How much of the credit goes to Vermeil, and how much goes to Martz/Saunders?
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Yes I think Vermeil needs to be give more credit here. The St Louis offense by the end of this season had completely collapsed, while Saunders only ever turned into an offensive genious in KC under Vermeil.
Remember his offense when he was HC at SD? No, me neither.
Also if he was such a guru why did he not have more of an impact when he was receivers coach in KC during the Martyball days?