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Old 01-12-2013, 12:16 AM   #70
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Originally Posted by Raiderhater58 View Post
Carl didnt fail here. He did just the opposite

He and Marty rebuilt this franchise/fan base.

He made us relevant in the NFL, something we havent been since he left.
I guess it depends what your goals are

I don't consider him a failure b/c we didn't win a Super Bowl in and of itself. From '98 on we were mostly mediocre and went 15 years w/o a playoff win under his watch. W/O looking any of it up I am guessing the majority of the league won playoff game(s) during that stretch.

Nobody's comparing him to the incompetent SP that was just run out of town but that doesn't mean he was a success either. That's also not to say he never did anything right. But at the end of the day the results were not up to snuff.
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