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Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn
To each their own. But it didn't feel like a rehash to me (outside of the obvious moments of borrowed plot, which only really amounted to like five minutes of screen time). It was just a new introduction to a standard original series character. It continued the same things I loved about the reboot. It gave us a new introduction/take on a classic character. And Kahn was much more interesting and fleshed out than Bana's Romulan. Big improvement there, I thought.
And this is all way before the timeframe of Wrath of Kahn. If Into Darkness is a rehash, it's a rehash of the original series Kahn episode.
I wonder if it's just because it's the second in the new series and Kahn was the second film in the original run. Would people have been bothered if they'd waited until the fifth or sixth film to do a Kahn story?
Into Darkness probably isn't quite as good as Star Trek (09). But I did actually like it more than Wrath. I would have preferred less direct homage, but I think they pulled it off. It's all explained very well. It's clever and gripping. And I was on the edge of my seat the whole time. I even got a bit teary at times.
The tribble in the middle of the scene was awkward and pure set up. That could have been handled more gracefully. And the resurrection was strained. But it could have been worse. And it's not like anyone expected dude to stay dead.
It's nice that we finally have the Enterprise out on its mission. I think that has the potential to open up the new timeline. I'm excited to see where they take it.
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I tried to like this one, and even waited a few weeks to see it in an attempt to let go of my expectations of suckitude ever since it was determined Khan was the villain. I don't want to try and convince anyone this was a bad movie, because I don't think it was. In fact, if I had not been a fan of everything Trek prior, I probably would have loved it. My 19 yo did, and I'm glad. It just wasn't for me.
I even tried to find some things to look forward to, like the glowing reviews of Simon Pegg. I'm a big fan of his, and thought he didn't get enough face time in the first movie. Unfortunately he did too good of a job! I thought his acting was a great portrayal of Scotty. Unfortunately, there is no way I can look at him and see a younger Scotty. All the other actors are close enough in appearance to suspend disbelief. In this one I was constantly at war between watching Scotty and Shaun of the Dead.
I can't really put my finger on any one thing, but just so many little things adding up that make me completely uninterested in any 5 year mission. I've already seen that too. Besides, a story line like that fits a TV show, not a movie. No way they start making movie length TV episodes (I hope).
Honestly, I think only one thing could bring me in to watch more of this alternate timeline. War with the Klingons. It happened in the original timeline, so it should be enough to follow the "similar but different" excuses we are seeing for the reboot. It has a broad but very undetailed back story, so just about anything they do would be a new story, or at least a first telling of an old story. Without Vulcan assistance, this could be a VERY dark time for the Federation, and fit in with the whole darkness theme that seems popular right now. It could fit in movies and/or TV shows. In fact, they could spend three movies on it, kill off the entire cast, and then start something new.
I really like the cast. I really liked the special effects. I really enjoyed the action sequences. There's definitely plenty here for me to like, but they just need to move onto something different.