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Originally Posted by frankotank
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Glad to see you found your breed, I couldn't deal with the drool and massive dumps myself, but damn that Bernie is calling me...
Found this on a message board, thought you might find it interesting. CMD seem like the devil himself in dog form:
As an owner of an 80kg 12 month male Caucasian Ovcharka puppy, and previously another male, these dogs are well yes ... dangerous if not controlled properly. Lots of training, lots of love & lots of understanding of the breed. He is sitting here at my feet at the moment waging his tail ant,d looking up at me with the love of a Baby for its mother He plays football with my 2 yr old son, and he is so gentle. BUt he has also gone through a door trying to protect the property. I have bred many breeds and lived with even more .... almost all guardian breeds ..... but the CO is the most capable protector. Agile, vicious, heavy weight, long 2 inch Ks, bite force of up to 670 PSI, unfearing, almost unstoppable (hearing story after story in the CO community), clever fighters too (in and out like a boxer). I, being an owner, would NEVER enter a house with a free Ovcharka I did not know well, whether female or male. Their skin is extremely thick and supple, double coated long fur, and just enough excess skin ... ll of this acts like armor. To give an idea we were walking through the woods a few months ago and this 4 yr old pitbull rushed out of the trees and hit my OC on the shoulder hard then proceeded to try and rip the crap out of him. The pitbull had every intent on ripping the throat out. My 10 month old CO at the time just started waging his tail and jumping around playing. Really like they were old friends. The pitbull continued to rip at my dog with no effect .... in fact the PB was getting insanely angry I assume because his vicious advances were being met with playfulness. I let this carry on for 20-30 seconds until a young couple came crashing out of the woods screaming at their dog and trying to apologize at the same time until they stopped in their tracks. Seeing my CO's size (78cm at the shoulder) they stood there looking confused and a little scared. I told them not to worry he thinks your pitbull is playing. I don't know any dog that can match a good fully grown male CO. They are very definition of the white shark of the dog world, used to taking on bears & killing the largest grey wolves fearlessly. They are what burglars dream about in their nightmares. We bite checked him today with a chap who breeds and trains the Belgium Shepherds for the US border patrols. When he saw my CO he was a little scared (note he is only 12 months old). Bite training went brilliantly for the first 2 minutes, until Mike (the trainer) hit me with the prop whip and my CO caught him by the elbow (one the sleeve thank god) dragged him down and then snapped at his face. Luckily two of us were holding him or Mike would not have made another good night sleep or kept a girlfriend.
There is a very old legend that says when the gods left Tibet the monks begged them to stay for who would protect them in their absence? The gods did not reply but the monks awoke the next morning with seven ovcharkas sleeping at the foot of the steps of the monastery, 3 males and 4 females, to replace the last seven gods that left the earth. It was said that the gods had mixed the strongest bears and the smartest wolves together to make the new protectors. Obviously untrue but legends are born around those that deserve it in some cases
This is not a dog ... it is something more ... something intelligent and caring but totally willing to lay down its life to protect my wife and son. No man would enter my house with negative intentions and leave all the happier for coming.
But this dog is almost impossible to train, strong willed like no other, & although if the blood lines are good they will never attack the family they ARE NOT for everyone. Please dont buy this breed unless you really know what you are doing with not just dogs, but the worst kinds of guardian breeds. They are not easy and deadly in the hands of most pitbull owner types. I can kick a pitbull off me ... if an OC gets loose with intent to damage I am a dead man. We have multiple gates, fences, even protocols to open the door. Takes a lot of responsibility to own a dog like this.
And an added note; the tibetan mastiff has the same ancestor as the Ovcharka except the TM is not known for its strength & willing to give its life. The caucasian ovcharkas were brought over from Tibet 2,000-3,000 years ago.
I hope this clears things up a little.