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Old 03-04-2014, 03:27 PM   #2117
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Originally Posted by Fish View Post
I never called you a liar, I said your data doesn't exist. So far that has proven completely true.

The burden of proof is on you because at no time has Apple been anywhere close to under 15% market share. Everyone knows that. The ball started in my court with Apple owning over 1/2 the market share. Gartner's data shows that. Gartner even lists OTHER, which covers white box shipments. That's the entire point of "OTHER".

IDC also shows the same: http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24420613

They also list OTHER.

That's 2 independent sources that clearly show Apple is nowhere close to being under 15%, which includes OTHER categories that cover white box.

There's my proof. And you still can't find any source at all that shows Apple being under 15%.

Do the right thing. Honor your bet.
Other does NOT include white box. I showed you this earlier in the thread. I also showed you earlier that IDC data has the same problem with only counting branded tablets. Go back through the thread and you can see where the few times I had access to white box data it directly contradicts the IDC reports of the time.

So you have nothing even close to proof and you should know that.

And saying the data I gave you doesn't exist is calling me a liar. Just because I'm not willing to pay $2k for you to see the data doesn't "prove" it doesn't exist. That's idiotic. I told you that there were 91 million Chinese white label shipments (I may be off by .6 on that one) last year and you claimed that the number doesn't exist. That's calling me a liar. Like I said, do you care to retract that? If not, fine, we'll assume you are saying I am lying about that figure.
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