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Old 01-06-2015, 02:09 AM   #104
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I just binged this from Saturday until today.

Wow. It's . . . crazy.

My theory from the first couple of episodes was "There's GOT to be someone else. Someone else has to be involved, and that person is someone about whom neither Jay nor Adnan want to involve." I don't think Adnan did it, nor do I think he KNOWS who did it. I think he just has some general idea of who did, but is too scared to say. But he knows Jay didn't do it, which is why he never says Jay did it. But why are there so many inconsistencies and mentions of "those people?"

And then I finish and go to reddit and see the theory that makes the most sense. The thing that ties all the slip-ups together. The theory goes that Adnan and Jay were doing some kind of drug dealing together. And this makes sense, because you hear the story about Adnan stealing a few bucks from the mosque. He wants some money. So, he gets tied up with Jay. Of COURSE they know each other more than either lets on. They're business partners. That's why the guy says it wasn't strange to see Jay pick up Adnan from track practice. It happened a lot.

I think something went south. Jay got them in over their heads, and then blamed it on Adnan. Jay's family is full of convicted drug dealers. They had connections. Jay knew who to talk to. But something got ****ed. That's why Adnan was with Jay on the morning of the 13th. It's why Adnan loaned Jay his car and phone. It wasn't to get Stephanie a present -- it was so Jay could fix whatever was wrong. Now, Adnan has no reason to suspect that this has anything to do with Hae's disappearance, which is why he doesn't connect the two that day.

So, Jay is out, making all these calls, doing a bunch of shit trying to fix what went down with the botched situation. Somehow, Adnan gets blamed, but they still want something from Adnan, so they take out the girl. This is the biggest problem with this scenario. Why Hae? What is she to them? There's either something connecting them that no one knows or this theory pretty much falls apart here.

So, all this goes down, but Adnan is at the library (hence Asia's letter). Jay is still ****ing around with Jen, freaking out about this body in the trunk. Maybe Jay didn't do it, but he was certainly there with the body in the trunk at some point. He picks up Adnan, they get high and go back to Jenn's house to create an alibi. Adnan isn't aware that Hae is dead, but merely missing. But because he's high, and this drug shit is going down, he's freaked out that the police are going to call. He's freaking out because he doesn't want them to find out about the drugs. It has nothing to do with Hae.

Adnan and Jay separate, and Adnan goes to the mosque to give his dad dinner, and Jay goes to work. Jay is freaking out, telling his friend that he's scared of "people connected to the murder." According to one of his stories, he's afraid of Adnan and the muslim mafia or something. No way. He's afraid of the guys that killed Hae and threatened to kill Stephanie. That's who he's afraid of. He just substitutes Adnan's name in there most of the time. If he's so afraid of Adnan, why does he keep hanging out with him after they "bury the body?" That makes no sense.

And it also makes no sense that if Hae felt threatened by Adnan, why would she get his new number and write it down? Why would she invite him to meet her new boyfriend to check out her car? No, she isn't feeling threatened by him.

Over the new few weeks, the situation isn't cleared up, and Asia's letters get redacted because of threats to her. Mr. S "finds" the body. More likely, he was bribed or coerced in some way to reveal it. He did time with Jay's dad. There are connections here. That's how he so easily found the body and why his story makes no sense.

Jenn is completely involved, and I'm sure Cathy is, too. I just don't know how exactly Cathy is involved, but from what I'm reading, Cathy's boyfriend, Jeff, is a super shady character. Jay had already told Jeff about Hae earlier in the day before picking up Adnan. So, there's a reason they all went back there. Cathy testified that it wasn't unusual for Jay to come over without Jenn, so it seems strange that she takes that tack on the Serial podcast. More lies, but why? She, or someone she knows, is involved.

Adnan figures out what is going on eventually. I don't know when. Maybe at the trial, which is why he tells Jay he's a coward. But that's why Adnan is so sure of his own innocence and why his story is so vague. Adnan knows he didn't do it. He knows Jay didn't do it. But he doesn't know exactly who did. All he knows is that Jay DOES know, but won't say.

And that's why Jay's story constantly changes. He constantly changes it to protect whoever actually killed her. I always thought Jay was a shady ****. There's no reason to keep changing your story. Once . . . okay. Twice . . . getting very unlikely. Three times, I'm done. He's lying on purpose. He's also tried to paint himself as some kind of small time guy, but also some big time guy. He didn't go to the police because of his record, but the police tell him "You don't have a record." He's also the only one with a history of violence. Trying to stab his friend so his friend would know what it felt like? WTF? There are zero stories of Adnan like this. Doing something stupid like stealing money? Fine, we've all done similarly stupid shit. But there's no history of violence or culture of violence surrounding Adnan. There is with Jay.

So, those are my initial thoughts.
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