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Old 04-30-2012, 10:12 AM   #2361
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Originally Posted by gblowfish View Post
Duncan, you don't count wins and losses. You've convinced me that that's no way to measure success.

You're right and I've seen the light.

I now fervently believe that every player should get a hug from Bud Selig, and an MLB "self esteem" medal for team participation. Then on off days, they all go to Chuckie Cheese! Yeah buddy!

And The Yanks, Texas, Anaheim and Detroit all go to the AL Playoffs every year just because they bought the right to do so. It's just business, you know?

BTW: Royals are no longer in the cellar, they're tied for the cellar!

I feel better already! And, with a .286 "winning pct" (although we're not concerned with wins and losses) we're only 5.5 games out!

Looks like Butler is going to be our All Star.
Overall wins matter, man. I wouldn't argue that. That's why teams are out there.

What's silly is measuring a pitcher's ultimate effectiveness solely on wins and losses. That's not a true measure of a pitcher's worth. There are a lot of things outside the pitcher's control - run support, defense behind him, the effectiveness of any pitchers that follow him - that dictate whether a win is awarded or not.

Which of the two would you rather have?

Pitcher A: 2.25 ERA/1.05 WHIP/230 IP/225 K/14 W/14 L
Pitcher B: 3.30 ERA/1.25 WHIP/215 IP/175 K/22 W/6 L
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