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Originally Posted by AustinChief
Again, you are basing your opinion on the complete fiction that was shown in Cosmos. His approach was NOT modern. If the representation of Bruno was accurate I'd be right with you on why it makes sense to show him. I'm all for science over religion. I am not here to defend the Church in any way... I am here to defend FACTUAL HISTORY. Bruno didn't look at Copernicus and say "wow, that's great, let me build on the science".. he said "oh wow, I can use this to justify my magical theories about reality." That is no different than the "science" espoused by Creationists.
Bruno was a pure supernaturalist who tried to co opt some science to prop up his crazy ideas. Please explain to us how this is in any way good for science? Again, that is no different than a tarot card reader who tries to use quantum theory to legitimize their nonsense.
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Wow talk about your picking points. Galileo didn't think planets traveled in ellipses. Newton believed in transmutation of elements. There is plenty wrong with a lot of what early scientific thinkers brought forward in some of their ideas.
Bruno had bad ideas just like Newton. But he argued from a consistent acting natural process that was uniform (and for the time included evil spirits, demons and the notion of souls and who didn't at that time). He didn't accept something like Historical Science in which the past acted differently than the present that Mr. Hamm insists on. No the present informed the whole of existence. That is the essence of what science is about. It is looking to consistency not exceptions to inform our understanding. So you can nit pick about what he got wrong but that doesn't change the fact that the philosophy of Revealed Understanding is at odds with a Discoverable Understanding. And that is what I am defending.