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Originally Posted by KC_Connection
That's just common sense. Anybody who has watched these two play in their careers know that they are on completely different levels. But sure, credit to you for not being such a hater that you believe something absolutely ridiculous.
I've said plenty both ways about both. When there are so many irrational haters of LeBron, though, my rational side leads me to defend him more often than not.
I haven't done anything of the sort. Even the stats (which suggest LeBron is the 3rd best playoff performer of all time so far) don't put him on MJ's level in the playoffs. He has to do more in that realm to get there obviously.
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And I am saying that even from here on out, stats aren't going to tell you the full story. You can selectively pull statistics to tell any story. As an example, I gave you a stat that said MJ has hit 50% of his game winners. LeBron is about 1/3 and Kobe's is even less.
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I'm not sure how MJ playing in college changes the fact that LeBron is ahead of where MJ was at his age in both team success and statistical dominance. That may be one of the reasons why, but the reason is largely irrelevant. The fact that he is is what's important. And you don't seem ready or prepared yet to acknowledge it.
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It absolutely makes a difference because LeBron had a 3 year head start on MJ. Statistically that matters. Like I said, LeBron may be further along now at 28 than MJ was, but that's not even what matters. What matters is that Jordan in his peak was about as close to perfect as you can get. That meant domination as a player/athlete, the kind of leader that challenges his teammates to be better, and the quintessential playoff performer.
It's not going to be enough for LeBron to win a bunch of games from here on out. If he wants to be in the same conversation as Jordan, he has to win championships in buckets and he HAS to take over playoff games late in the game the way Jordan did. I think LeBron is good at that, but sorry, I just don't think he has the kind of competitive arrogance that Jordan has. I don't think anybody does or has, in the NBA, let alone any sport. Jordan was quite possibly the most competitive athlete to ever play in any sport.