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Originally Posted by Fish
We don't know. So you cannot really make claims about what there can or cannot be. Infinity is just as impossible to describe as a contained universe.
It's very dangerous to simply attribute things that cannot be presently explained as therefore being acts of God, as if they are forever unknowable. History has unequivocally proven that the more we learn more about the universe, the fewer unknowns there are to be attributed to God. The windows of unknowns have been shrinking considerably, especially in the last few centuries. But one thing has been certain, it's never went the other direction. We have an incredible ways to go in understanding for sure.
Science is not arrogant. It attempts to understand the unexplainable. It's driven by truth and accuracy. You don't have to be mainstream you just have to be proven.
Galileo was punished by the Church. He's a perfect example of making a scientific claim, which in today's times would sound as crazy as saying there's an end to the universe. The Church said he was arrogant for proclaiming to know more than what the Bible said. Turns out he was correct.
Please don't try and turn this into a science bashing battle again. This is the last I'm commenting on this.
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I disagree, science IS arrogant, if you don't subscribe to the current theories (and that's just what they are , theories) then you're a kook, so called by many here against the legit scientists I posted about several pages back.
Other legit scientists with differing views, astronauts, air traffic controllers, Air Force, pilots and other military personnel... all either misguided or just plain stupid according to the "Galileo Era" scientists whom opposed them.
Point being, you seem to think that just one school of science has it all down pat, never even considering or even wanting to consider the opinions of other legit scientists... the same kind of stone wall Galileo ran into... disagree with your peers? well you're a heretic!
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Originally Posted by alnorth
well, except there is no God.
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I cant prove there is one, but you sure as hell cant prove that there ISNT... so stop it, you generally seem like a decent guy, but don't flat out say "x doesn't exist", because you cant prove it doesn't exist any more than I can prove it does.