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Originally Posted by Ebolapox

a few thoughts:

-ALL food is organic (i.e. carbon based). if it was ever alive and it was from earth; CARBON BASED LIFE). thus, the wording is bullshit (sorry--small pet peeve of mine). Now, if you want to call it 'natural' vs. unnatural food, maybe (what Frosty quotes isn't too far off--a lot of these things are naturally occurring, though we're definitely taking things to the extremes--which I'll address next)

-the MAIN issue at hand is one of simple human nature, though taken to extremes. I won't jump on a soap-box, but our species has many of the tendencies of a parasite. look at our explosive population growth. we are, to my knowledge, the only species on earth that doesn't fluctuate about the carrying capacity within our environment. we 'supposedly' haven't reached our carrying capacity (which is bullshit from the word go) for one simple reason: we keep raising our K-value (carrying capacity) by producing more and more food from less and less. we're too goddamned efficient. within 40 years there will be 2-3 MORE billion people. there are ALREADY too goddamned many of us. ever read up on how antibiotics are being overused and MRSA/VRSA and other drug resistant bacteria are losing susceptibility? that's just ONE issue we have to deal with as our population explodes.

too many mother****ers are alive and we just keep making more. at a certain point we need to look at the problems this causes. it's like having 30 people in a flophouse at the turn of the last century--it's made of wood and the slightest spark causes all 30 (or 29) to die horribly of horrible conditions. I'm not suggesting eugenics in any way, but we definitely need to decide exactly how to address this issue before it gets too late and we cause ourselves to go extinct (though I believe we're rather resilient--we likely won't go extinct, a VERY low percentage will likely survive). it's beyond unsustainable.

oh yeah? well i am