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Old 04-13-2013, 08:02 PM   #40
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1) see bep's post.
I doubt seriously that BEP is enough of a libertarian purist that she doesn't acknowledge that there is a place for some level of public infrastructure. But even if she is, a tiny minority of conservative dissenters doesn't invalidate my point.

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2) see response to bep's post. Please explain how.
I did so in the previous post.

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3) I disagree: Let's get specific, and speak of purely transportation infrastructure. mainly highways.

The Dwight D. Eisenhower System of Interstate and Defense Highways...
Let's not use a cherry-picked specific, because it doesn't prove anything relative to my point #3. My point #1 is an acknowledgement that we can find individual examples of government owned/maintained infrastructure that benefit our economy. But that doesn't mean that every conceivable government owned/maintained infrastructure project is going to be positive. To disprove point #3, you'd have to show that EVERY form of government owned/maintained infrastructure is a net benefit to our economy. All that's needed to prove that my point #3 is valid is one example of government owned/maintained infrastructure that fails to be a net positive. For example, it ended up not being built, but do you think the famous "bridge to nowhere" in Alaska was going to be a net economic benefit? Maybe it was, but I think it's more likely that it was not.


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My Point is that the government does stimulate the economy through infrastructure, and I used a specific example, of many, that showed the positive amount of stimulus government spending has. I used a recent article to make an argument for increasing government spending in American infrastructure.
In 2009, Barack Obama promised that his massive porkulus spending spree was going to be investment in infrastructure. Later, we found out it was just a gift to friendly constituents and very little of it had to do with infrastructure. We do have infrastructure needs in this country, but this administration can not be trusted to address those needs. Furthermore, I doubt that you and I would agree on what level of infrastructure is appropriate.
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