Originally Posted by DementedLogic
Nothing was going to be done on entitlements either way. Each side was going to stand their ground until the other side caved. Republicans caved. So the problem is that Republicans didn't stand their ground on entitlements. Those Republicans aren't conservatives.
That is total BS and goes against everything politics and good business sense should be about. You are completely wrong. THe problem wasn't that the Republicans didn't stand their ground, it's that throughout the entire process, all they did was stand their ground instead of finding ways to negotiate concessions. And that is the entire problem with politics and the thing that really bothers me about the tea party movement. Their ideas are right, but then they get pissed when they don't completely get the way. That's NOT good politics. Good politics is about good negotiation, understanding that when you're in a losing battle, negotiating losing an inch is far better than standing your ground and losing a mile.