Originally Posted by alnorth
You are missing the point. Whether or not management sucked in the past is irrelevant. The unions had a choice to make, a choice that was informed by unbiased outsiders who looked at the books and told the unions the truth of the situation. They could either have a job under these new conditions, or they could lose their job.
The membership of the teamsters union made the correct, dispassionate choice. The idiot bakers made the stupid, emotional choice.
That's absolutely a possibility, and that point can be earnestly made, I just don't think it ought to be made in the backdrop of "why unions are evil". Unions, like executive boards, like individuals can make wise or poor choices. It just appears to me, that whenever there is a union example, it gets blown to the nth degree by conservative talk shops. It is further expanded to any union, and particularly to public sector unions.
I'm not saying one has to be a union fan, but this partisan blame culture we have going from the conservative side wants to bust unions,they don't want meaningful dialogue, they want them gone and they do it under the guise that unions are the reason companies go belly up. Most of these people have no contact with unions, they don't know how they are organized, or what makes them a positive influence in the system. They're a bogey man for the conservative right to lay blame at, just like they did in San Bernardino.