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Old 10-01-2012, 08:35 AM   #65
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Originally Posted by Direckshun View Post
Not... really. It just proves a lot of the free speech we allow can piss them off.

But if you look at what actual terrorists say, and what drives terrorist recruiting, it's less "garrr Americans are free" and more "America murders our women, children, terrorizing us all the while."
No, it definitely proves you wrong. They don't like our policies but they ALSO don't like our modern, infidel ways. When Sayyid Qutb breathed life into the Islamist movement that ultimately spawned both today's Muslim Brotherhood and al Qaeda, he wasn't critical of America just because we supported Israel. Nor was he critical of our relationship with Egypt (at the time we didn't have much of a relationship with the Egyptian government) or the presence of our military (there was none). He was complaining about what he considered the decadence he witnessed as a student here. Things like girls dancing with boys and going about without proper covering.

Nothing has changed since then. They still hate us for our freedoms (as well as our policies that bring our civilizations into contact), not in an intellectual way but in the same way that people like you like to say that the religious right hate gays, although I suspect that there's more real hatred among street rabble Islamists than the typical pro-life American.
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