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Old 09-30-2012, 02:12 AM   #20
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Haven't had time to read this yet, but I can see how the premise could be valid. The only part I might take issue with is the idea that it "creates" more terrorists. That is a pretty big leap to take without some serious justification. I can definitely see how one could think or feel that to be true... but it still relies on a shit ton of assumptions. Again, I'll revisit this after I have read it more fully.

Just off the cuff, it sounds like it sucks, but what ya gonna do? I'm ALL ABOUT blaming Obama for shit, but this seems like a damned if you do, damned and vulnerable if you don't.
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well, as shitty as this may sound, drone strikes don't create terrorists nor do they aid recruitment by terrorist organizations. Agoraphobes aren't going to attack anything.
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Well dude, they are efficient in the ONE way that matters most to ANY leader.

They do not cost lives of OUR men.

Sadly, that is the only efficiency that truly matters when you have to send men into harm's way.
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I'm with you.

If countries actually aided our efforts, more than half of these actions wouldn't be necessary.

So IMO, their governments are equally to blame, if not more, for any civilian losses.
Honestly, then, you need to take a hard look then at how you view the Muslim world's complete disapproval of America.

In the off chance that any of you, or any of the people reading this thread that agree with you, genuinely believed that the Middle East hates us because of free speech, freedom of religion, we're infidels, we're free, we let women drive etc. etc...

The reason the Muslim world hates us is driven by our policies in the Middle East. That's why they hate us. If any of you genuinely knew this already, my apologies -- I just hear a casual dismissal of that hate as "it's just Muslims being Muslims" as if being Muslim came with a built-in disdain of America.

Some of those policies are defensible, such as our support of Israel.

But a lot of it comes from policy that literally rains death from above.
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