[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Because Hootie, from Illinois, has stated that running a 4.5 is impossible, as have other people in isolated areas.

Seriously, Jason: Maybe you don't follow high school football across the nation or watch the national signing day, etc. But for you or anyone else to patently claim that hundreds, if not thousands, of kids run TRUE 4.5 forties across the nation is ABSURD.

I don't recall anyone in this thread claiming that they benched "400 and ran a 4.4" has Hootie so blatantly exaggerated (as usual). He's so full of shit that it's no longer funny, it's pathetic.

And quite honestly, I have a new found respect for Doomy & Beach Tribe (two of my, for lack of a better term, adversaries in this forum) because they've obviously competed and their statements come from experience, not through a drunken, myopic, insular haze.

Regardless of all the blather, there are guys that are freaks of nature out there that can run blazzingly fast and lift an ungodly amount of free weights at an early age. But that alone does not make one a gifted athlete capable of playing at a high level beyond high school.

I still stand behind the times that were recorded at the camp that I attended, and still believe that there are many 4.5 runners out there, but it seems that these guys also have a reason for their believing that times can often be skewed.