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Originally Posted by beach tribe
I have zero problem with anyone's opinion, but if people are getting ridiculed for theirs, then we should have accessible records like this to hold them accountable.
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Clearly, you DO have issue with people's opinions, as evidenced by your hate for Mecca and the constant "Gholston" in retort to Hamas.
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Originally Posted by beach tribe
For the record, I was dead wrong about Hali. After seeing him, get owned repeatedly in the season that we set low bar for sacks in a season, I said that Hali would never be a legit threat, and that his only place he would be effective is coming off the left end. Everybody gets some right, and some wrong.
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No, you weren't. Hali was effective his first season playing opposite Allen. His second and third seasons were a disappointment. The move to outside linebacker has given his career new life but there is no evidence that indicates his career would have ascended had he stayed at DE in a 4-3 defense.
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Originally Posted by beach tribe
No one is ever right or wrong all the time, and nobody knows what a players future will look like. GMs, and want to be GMs alike can only speculate off of the body of work that they have to go on, that's why it pisses me off so much to see the know it alls raking people across the coals for their opinions.
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This goes both ways. If someone is correct in their assement that a player will be infective, I rarely see any praise for that evaluation.
Conversely, if a player is better or meets expectations, those who questioned the player is the one "raked" over the coals.
It's a double standard.
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Originally Posted by beach tribe
It just makes them look stupid in the long run.
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No, it doesn't. It makes them wrong. There are several reasons why players fail to translate to the NFL and there are several reasons why players with lower grades outplay their draft status.
On draft day 2006, I stated that Jarrad Page would be a impact safety for the Chiefs, yet if you search the threads, there are tons of people that say he's camp fodder and won't make the team. Are all of those people "stupid"? No. For the most part, I'd bet none of them had seen him play and don't understand 7th round value.
And once again, when someone is "right" in their assessment of a player, I rarely, if ever, see that member praised.
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Originally Posted by beach tribe
It's not their opinions of the players, right or wrong that makes them look that way, it's the fact that they are too stupid to know that a fifth round pick may end up looking like a 1st, and a first may be out of the league in a few years. Even the best drafting teams have picks that you look back on, and say WTF were they thinking?
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This is untrue. It's very rare that teams over-evaluate players. Sure, every once in a while a true bust comes along. But most team's evaluations are similar. Every once in a while, there's a "WTF" moment, like with Tyson Jackson or Tyson Alualu this past draft.
But it appears that Jacksonville was correct in their evaluation and the Chiefs were incorrect. It happens.
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Originally Posted by beach tribe
I mean, who would have ever thought that Matt Cassel would be making Mark Sanchez look like a chump right now?
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Mark Sanchez has 16 TD, 8 INT's and more passing yardage than Cassel. I think it's safe to say that the Jets have faced better teams this season than the Chiefs although it's speculation as to how either would have done if they were to switch teams.
But Mark Sanchez has hardly been the definition of a "chump" to date this season.