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Old 01-09-2005, 03:30 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by penchief
Good idea for everyone but innocent victims and idealistic Americans who believe leadership is by example.
It's not?

As to the "innocent victims", they are being killed by terrorists anyway, so where does that leave your argument?

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The randomn targets of these type operations are probably no different than the innocent victims who were randomly detained at Abu Graibh. There is a reason that even WAR has rules. When you operate in secrecy and defer better judgment until after shooting your wad the results are generally less than satisfactory, IMO.

Nothing this administration has done has been above board, IMO. I just don't see American values and human integrity as part of their makeup, IMO.
You are welcome to believe that if you like. The truth of the matter is that anyone who plays by the "rules" of war, is not trying very hard to win.

THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OF SPECWAR ACCORDING TO RICHARD MARCINKO




-I am the War Lord and the wrathful God of Combat and I will always lead you from the front, not from the rear.




-I will treat you all alike-just like shit.




-Thou shalt do nothing I will not do first, and thus will you be created Warriors in My deadly image.




-I shall punish thy bodies because the more thou sweatest in training, the less thou bleedest in combat.




-Indeed, if thou hurteth in thy efforts and thou suffer painful dings, then thou art Doing It Right.




-Thou hast not to like it-thou hast just to do it.




-Thou shalt Keep It Simple, Stupid.




-Thou shalt never assume.




-Verily, thou art not paid for thy methods, but for thy results, by which meaneth thou shalt kill thine enemy before he killeth you by any means available.




-Thou shalt, in thy Warrior's Mind and Soul, always remember My ultimate and final Commandment:There Are No Rules-Thou Shalt Win At All Cost.
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